AaaaH! How do you pronounce Дела?

Дела. This seems to be for some reason the hardest word for me to pronounce in Russian. I have a friend who has been trying to help me, but they haven't been able to give a very detailed description on how to place your tongue or maybe some English or French words that share some similar pronunciation. I would really really appreciate help!!. I can't seem to make the 'ye' sound that comes from the 'e' in Дела. My friend (who speaks Russian fluently, as it is their first language) says that it is a very common sound in Russian and refuses to teach me more Russian until I have conquered the word, Дела. Also, I would really appreciate help on how to roll your tongue. I can roll well enough to say certain words, but for some reason not Руский (or is it spelled Рускйи??) Anyway, thanks for your help in advance!!

The best way to learn how to pronounce something is to hear it spoken.

I think, you should try to pronounce it like "дила".
OK, е is the most common letter in Russian, but it's pronounce like и very often.

P.S. saibot, of course, is right. Listen how your friend pronounce it.

делааа, yeah, you should try to speak the way that pranki shown you, like:

- ПРЕВЕТ!!!!
- ЧМОКИ!!
- КАКДИЛА?
- СУПИР! АКАКТЫ?
- НАМАНА!
- СКОКАТИБЕЛЕТ, ФОТКАЕСТ?

Русский

:lol:
http://www.kulichki.com/vv/pesni/dela-m ... -dela.html
(Audio is in an upper left corner)
ДЕЛА Всеволоду Абдулову

Дела...
Меня замучили дела каждый день,
каждый день.
Дотла
Сгорели песни и стихи - дребедень,
дребедень.
Весь год
Жила-была и вдруг взяла, собрала
и ушла,
И вот -
Такие грустные дела у меня.

Теперь -
Мне целый вечер подари, подари,
подари,
Поверь -
Я буду только говорить.

Из рук,
Из рук вон плохо шли дела у меня,
шли дела,
И вдруг
Сгорели пламенем дотла - не дела,
а зола...
Весь год
Жила-была и вдруг взяла, собрала
и ушла,
И вот -
Опять веселые дела у меня.

Теперь -
Мне целый вечер подари, подари,
подари,
Поверь -
Не буду даже говорить.

А Сайбот не про родительный падеж говорит слова "дело"?

Hm... May be. In such a case my advice is wrong...

Thank you all for your help! I will try yo pronounce it дила. That makes a lot of sense! Thanks!! (I'd still love more advice if you are all willing to give me more!!) :D

Короче, если дела (plural of дело), тогда [дила].
А если дела (genetive singular of дело), тогда [дела] with that "dye-" thing.

How hard is it really? Stressed E is Ye, unstressed e, is e.
If your mental capacity is so low that you have to start replacing e with И then you probably dont have enough brain matter to continue learning russian anyways.

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Originally Posted by Dogboy182

How hard is it really? Stressed E is Ye, unstressed e, is e.
If your mental capacity is so low that you have to start replacing e with И then you probably dont have enough brain matter to continue learning russian anyways.

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You made a typo
Unstressed e is и

I dunno man.

Далеко sounds a lot more like Daleko than daliko to me.

В фразе "Мне целый вечер подари, подари", вы можете слышать слово "мне"? Не могу. Это очень тихий?

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Originally Posted by Darobat

В фразе "Мне целый вечер подари, подари", вы можете слышать слово "мне"? Не могу. Это очень тихий?

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Он там вместо "мне" спел "хоть". Его песня: хозяин - барин. :)

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Originally Posted by Dogboy182

How hard is it really? Stressed E is Ye, unstressed e, is e.
If your mental capacity is so low that you have to start replacing e with И then you probably dont have enough brain matter to continue learning russian anyways.

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http://forum.exler.ru/html/emoticons/vedi.jpg

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Originally Posted by TATY

You made a typo
Unstressed e is и

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So компьютер will sound like [кампйутир]? :)

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Originally Posted by Dogboy182

I dunno man.

Далеко sounds a lot more like Daleko than daliko to me.

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To me it sounds more like the English I sound as in It.

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Originally Posted by net surfer

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Originally Posted by TATY

You made a typo
Unstressed e is и

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So компьютер will sound like [кампйутир]? :)

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does it not?

It definetely doesn't. And it was a bad example because 'e' sounds like 'э' - [кампйутэр].

еко in далеко Is like the english "Eco", and sounds nothing like "Ic(k)o".

Its like saying that Ш and Щ are the same sound, they clearly are not.

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Originally Posted by net surfer

It definetely doesn't. And it was a bad example because 'e' sounds like 'э' - [кампйутэр].

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Hmm... It definitely does sound like that when I speak Ukrainian, but in Russian I've always pronounced (and I think heard) a different sound, which is the same for an unstressed 'e' and unstressed 'и'. Like, in 'компьюТEрные ТEхнологии и опТИмальное управление' I hear the same sound in all the capitalized syllables.

Well, you can say E in "компьютерные" but it will sound kinda weird at least to me because T will sound soft. And anyway unstressed E doesn't sound like "the English I sound as in It" as TATY said.

I made a recording, so we can hear that we're arguing about - http://404.rzn.ru/tmp/e-u.mp3

компьютерные технологии
далеко - unstressed E
берег - stressed and unstressed E

Yay, good jorb alexei. Unstressed E is like the e in Egg. Surely you wouldnt say its acceptable to replace E with I and say its still the same sound!