Сам я верю, что бомбардировка Ливии сделана глобальными банкирами. За чем Обама беспокоится? У него нет никаких оснований тревожиться. Он просто работает для своего верховного владыкы. Как вы думают об зтом?
Блог ИА Германа Стерлигова - Бомбежки Ливии – наказание Каддафи за попытку введения золотого динара.
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Каддафи хотел заменить доллар золотом - И JFK тоже...
Кому - нары, кому - Канары.
JFK didn't kill people. Nor did he get insane. Nor were there so many protesters against him.Originally Posted by sperk
Каддафи хотел заменить доллар золотом - И JFK тоже...
According to the latest reports, the 'defenders of freedom and democracy' in Libya have already killed more than 700 civilians. Now, they were the martyrs for the cause, it appers.
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That's awful. But how many people had been killed by "the initiator of the golden dinar" before that? He had to be stopped...According to the latest reports, the 'defenders of freedom and democracy' in Libya have already killed more than 700 civilians. Now, they were the martyrs for the cause, it appers.
I do not think that is what Sperk said. JFK signed an order that would basically end the Federal Reserve's monopoly of money. He was shot soon after. The JFK's order was immediately reversed by Johnson after he was dead. Coincidence? I don't think so. Two other presidents were shot who did similar things and another they tried but failed to kill. That was Jackson.
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So are you saying anyone who begs to do a similar thing will be killed?I do not think that is what Sperk said. JFK signed an order that would basically end the Federal Reserve's monopoly of money. He was shot soon after. The JFK's order was immediately reversed by Johnson after he was dead. Coincidence? I don't think so. Two other presidents were shot who did similar things and another they tried but failed to kill. That was Jackson.
I'd say - go rob the banks, people ))) Withdraw your savings and get gold instead. If we all do it, the tyranny would end.
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And the chaos would start.
I think we've already had a similar thread about Gadhafi and his golden dinar, haven't we?
Ramil, I'm still not sure why are you so focused on the golden currency? You can always purchase gold with your money and store it the same way you'd do with the golden coins. If you dislike the evil green paper, then just don't use it. What troubles you so much?
Things will settle down... eventuallyAnd the chaos would start.To the better end.
I alone wouldn't matter much. Besides, they put VAT on the gold sale in Russia, didn't you know it? Banking interest - that's what we should put an end to.I think we've already had a similar thread about Gadhafi and his golden dinar, haven't we?
Ramil, I'm still not sure why are you so focused on the golden currency? You can always purchase gold with your money and store it the same way you'd do with the golden coins. If you dislike the evil green paper, then just don't use it. What troubles you so much?
1 barrel of oil today will be still a barrel of oil tomorrow, 1 J of Energy will be 1 J of Energy tomorrow, 1 gold piece will be 1 gold piece tomorrow, etc.
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Yeah, right. As usual, better to some people and worse to the others. We've been through that a couple of times already. Thanks, but no.Things will settle down... eventually
That's not true. If you set an example that works - others will follow. That's what the Internet is for.
You got me, I didn't. But, you know, we pay so much taxes here and there and everywhere for all kind of reasons, than I think another tax doesn't really matter in the big picture. You can think about it another way: the annual inflation in Russia is just below 10%, the VAT is 18%, so in two years it would already pay off and perhaps survive the sharp market changes and prospect devaluations. Also, I'm pretty sure there are some kind of mutual funds in Russia who purchase gold (or any other natural resources for that matter), so for those you probably won't pay the VAT. If you think Russian mutual funds are run by thieves, do it somewhere internationally (e.g. in Sweden, where there's allegedly no corruption and everything is fair and square). There are options.
What would you do if you want to live in an apartment, but you don't have enough money to buy it? Rob the bank and end the tyranny of those who have the apartment right now?
Yes and no. Obviously, with 1 J of energy you could do much much less some 250,000 years ago than you can today. Also, in the observable past (say in the past 40 years), with 1 J of energy you could produce much less comfort (=the value) than you can today. On the other hand, it was much more difficult to produce those Joules in the past than it is today. The value of a Joule significantly fluctuates over time. As to the oil and the gold, the truth is that the price of each and every resource goes down with time. Due to the famous bet Simon–Ehrlich wager - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that fact is almost indisputable today. So, by investing into gold you're actually going to lose money in the long run. Typically, the investment portfolios might include gold to balance (=to save) the investment from fluctuating too much, but in order to increase your investment and/or save it from the inflation, you'd have to have something else.
You always put yourself on a 'losing side'... Why is that? Are you a banker?Yeah, right. As usual, better to some people and worse to the others. We've been through that a couple of times already. Thanks, but no.
I don't want any options but the collapse of the whole world's banking system. (mad evil laughter here)
Do you live in a cardbox?What would you do if you want to live in an apartment, but you don't have enough money to buy it? Rob the bank and end the tyranny of those who have the apartment right now?
That's because I didn't know how. The amount of energy was the same and the potential work was there always. What concerns comfort then no, I think the opposite, we require more energy as we progress. There is even a way to estimate the level of development of the society by energy consumption per capita. Therefore if to make myself comfortable in the past I required X Joules of energy now I have to spend X + Y Joules to get the same comfort.
Now, that's true. Still, the initial cost of building a power plant is balanced out by the decreasing of the produced energy cost in total.
I don't think so. If you measure everything in joules (not in US Dollars) then the nominal value will be the same. Quite probably, you can buy more bread tomorrow for 100 K Joules than you can do today, but that's not because a Joule would become more expensive, but because bread would become cheaper.
Again, you can't invest in gold if you have a gold-driven economy. That's pure nonsense. Invest what? Gold? You can, of course buy 1 ounce of gold for 1 ounce of gold, but what's the point of that? I cannot lose money in that case, because MONEY = GOLD. I don't propose investing in gold, I propose to switch from the 'floating value' of money equivalent to a 'fixed value' one, be that gold, joules, or glass beads.
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Well the fact that the dollar is the commonly held reserve, and that it is the currency for oil transactions is clearly the cause for A LOT of ongoing problems and wars in the world. It is a system that unfairly benefits the US, and the US is prepared to go to war to defend it. However if gold was the commonly held reserve and US dollar just a normal currency, then these problems might not exist! I agree with Ramil - people should use gold instead of dollar.
Or even better, something totally neutral, like energy or something virtual.
But a global currency.... Do we dare it?
Suppose you're right. So, I think if a golden dinar becomes the currency for oil transactions it would create the exact same problems and cause LOT of other problems and wars in the world. You see, when you hear the unintelligent slogan that "the golden currency favours no country" - that needs additional explanation. Say, you have a golden dinar, what country would produce it? All countries? How? At what exchange rate? According to the price of raw gold at that time? But the price of raw gold would skyrocket as a result of that process, wouldn't it? Then how? At the price of oil at that point? Could you imaging what the "futures" contracts might look like if that happens? So, I'm not sure you thought that through.
The switch to the golden currency worldwide would favour those who save and not those who spend effectively slowing down the world economy. Think about that when you have a chance. The British Empire used golden currency as long as they had their colonies: the colonies produced and the Britain consumed at the unfair price (they only produced the coins, nothing more significant), and that was just the means to control the producing colonies. And that's why the colonies rushed into the independence and created their own national currencies.
The golden dinar (if created) would be a very strong way for the resource-exporting countries to control the goods-producing countries. Could you even imagine the scale of the military conflicts that situation would cause?!
If you don't stop this, I'll become a believer in conspiracy theories very soon....
Ok, I am pretty sure Eric C. is not a native speaker of English now. Previously I just thought he was young and not good at grammar. C'mon Eric, what's the big secret? Nobody else has a problem revealing their nationality. It's more easy to understand and sympathise with your views if we know what historical context they are from.
Is it a personal or professional interest?C'mon Eric, what's the big secret? Nobody else has a problem revealing their nationality. It's more easy to understand and sympathise with your views if we know what historical context they are from.
And who are "we"?
Still dodging the question, huh?Is it a personal or professional interest?
And who are "we"?
If you answer to my first question with the second option, then yes, definitely.Still dodging the question, huh?
If not, we can discuss it in private...
Hey Eric, I apologize in advance for giving you advice, but you might consider using my crocodile tactics and let Hanna know you're just one of the Ericsson devices. That might do the trick.Still dodging the question, huh?
Thanks, but this stage is in the past already. She's not gonna believe I'm a bot anymore...Hey Eric, I apologize in advance for giving you advice, but you might consider using my crocodile tactics and let Hanna know you're just one of the Ericsson devices. That might do the trick.
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