Thread: Что произойдет в восточной Украине? (Eastern Ukraine?)

Originally Posted by it-ogo

I witness that the guys that made actual armed violence are not from here. They look different, act different, speak different, they don't know local customs and geography. They don't discuss anything, they just make orders to their followers. When they are asked about their goals they reply mostly: "I am not the one in charge of answering". They don't make deals with locals, they demand complete obediance. They don't let local press (from the town) in the captured buildings, only Russian press. They say: "we don't need Khokhols (Ukrainians) here."

That is incredibly suspicious. If you certain the people are not locals, then I change my mind. I was under the impression it was locals. Also I didn't think there was any noticeable difference between accents, looks and what not.... Of course, on further thought, there are always "finer" shades that local people can tell; if somebody is an outsider or not local.

The reason I didn't believe Russia was guilty was not because I think Russia is some saint... More like -- I simply didn't see any useful gain for Russia in creating chaos in Eastern Ukraine. Unless Russia is secretly planning annexation it's pretty awful to deliberately stir things up in a neighbouring country.

gRomoZeka said something that would also support you on this, even if she has a different view on Crimea than you.

I still don't get what Russia would want with this area, and against the will of the majority who live there. It makes no sense. Maybe I am missing something though, and Russia does in fact want the area, or it has some other agenda that it is pursuing. Apart from anything else, it would be incredibly bad for Russia's international image to go into Ukraine proper. I think educated people know that Crimea was a special case and that the current furore will eventually settle down. But Ukraine proper is a different thing altogether.

Originally Posted by Hanna

gRomoZeka said something that would also support you on this, even if she has a different view on Crimea than you.

What exactly?

BTW, read this article from BBC. There are a few embedded video reports, that show "local villagers" who are pretty active and opinionated on their own, without being browbeaten into it by some mythical Russian spies.

BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Military column 'seized' in Kramatorsk