Thread: Почему распался Советский Союз? Что происходит в Прибалтике, и немного истории

Originally Posted by Basil77

By neighbours you mean Belorussia? But it has a discount as a member of Customs Union. You can also apply for membership and ask a discount after that. Btw, if you want to have nothing common with Russia why you keep buying gas from us and whinie about high prices? Buy it from your fellow NATO member Norway for example (but mind that Norway's export gas prices are even higher than the current price you are paying to Russia).

No, I mean Latvia, Estonia and Poland Are all these countries also members of customs union?

Originally Posted by mergike

there was a partizanian war against USSR in 1944-1953

These "partizans" were the ones who served in Hitler's army and were afraid of rightful punishment for their crimes.

Originally Posted by mergike

No, I mean Latvia, Estonia and Poland Are all these countries also members of customs union?

Well, as I wrote above, if you don't like the price, buy gas somethere else.

Haha you founded one city in Estonia Well done, good achievement after such destruction of this country

Destruction, yeah.

According to the Human Development Report 2009, Lithuania belongs to the group of high human development countries.

Human development index counts most of all education and most of your adult population got one, at least partially, in so awful Soviet times.

Originally Posted by Basil77

Destruction, yeah.


Human development index counts most of all education and most of your adult population got one, at least partially, in so awful Soviet times.

You know I’m studying Political science at Vytautas Magnus university, which before occupation was called University of Lithuania. However, when Russians occupied Lithuania this university like many other universities and was simply closed and a warehouse was mare of it. (They also made warehouses of churches in Lithuania, I guess it was one of their favorite activities, even Vilnius Arkikatedra kad to become a warehouse in soviet times http://www.vestuviugidas.lt/images/c...34_image_5.jpg ) So, if you are thinking that by closing Lithuanian universities and schools you helped to improve education then think again because one more time you are talking nonsences.
Or maybe we should remember how their forced Lithuanians to become a pioneers and join communist party because otherwise they weren’t allowed to study at any university at all. And By the way even if you finished such university no one allowed you to stay in Lithuania but told to go and work inside of Russia. So what country’s education they tried to improve??
This is how USSR tried to ‘’improve’’ education in Lithuania. At least it’s what they did there.

Originally Posted by Basil77

Well, as I wrote above, if you don't like the price, buy gas somethere else.

Well it's no surprise that you couln't deny that Lithuania is paying a political price. It's just obvious isn't it?

Mergike; I don't know anything about Mikhail Golovatov but if anything, the EU is usually partial AGAINST Russia, so whatever he did can't be a big outrage, or he would have found himself in the Hague answering for whatever he did.

If we are talking about EU values, and being completely true to them - then the Baltic states MUST respect the language situation of the Russian speakers more than they do at the moment. It is such a basic thing in the EU that the situation in the Balticsa is really hard to grasp when you are used to constantly seeing countries going to almost ridiculous rights to respect their language minorities.
Whereas the Baltic states is almost doing the opposite - not to mention the issue of citizenship.

Originally Posted by Hanna

Mergike; I don't know anything about Mikhail Golovatov but if anything, the EU is usually partial AGAINST Russia, so whatever he did can't be a big outrage, or he would have found himself in the Hague answering for whatever he did.

If we are talking about EU values, and being completely true to them - then the Baltic states MUST respect the language situation of the Russian speakers more than they do at the moment. It is such a basic thing in the EU that the situation in the Balticsa is really hard to grasp when you are used to constantly seeing countries going to almost ridiculous rights to respect their language minorities.
Whereas the Baltic states is almost doing the opposite - not to mention the issue of citizenship.

Baltic states paid low price for their independence??? If you really think that it‘s a low price when when soviet tanks are crushing alive unarmed Lithuanians who are making a peacefull demonstration and everything seems just really normal to you then maybe:
A) You do not have heart in your chest.
B) You are not able to understand what are you talking. So which is the right answer?
And just for your info: As Nulle said before Michail Golovatov is responsible for this massacre in 1991 01 13 (at least try to read what nulle is writting) when soviet tanks crushed unarmed peacefull Lithuanians. Of course, he wasn‘t the only one who made all this. The other ones who took part in this even‘t and killed Lithuanians are hiding in Russia and Russia aren‘t extraaditing these criminals. Anyway, if you haven‘t already heard about this event , soon you will hear about it. And don‘t worry even though now he escaped and didn‘t get what he deserved next time everything will not end so well for Golovatov.
Furthermore, stop talking about these discriminations against Russians. I said that there is no discrimination against them and if you think differently then give a proof. But the truth is that you simply do not have such thing, right? So, I‘m again telling you again to stop talking such nonsences.
By the way, if you want to complain and try to convince everyone that it‘s very bad for Russians to live in Latvia then go and make your posts in the thread about this topic. This thread isn‘t about Russian minorities, is it clear?

It's a pity that all the USSR legacy is preventing many people from seeing what is really a beautiful and interesting country with fundamentally friendly and fun people.

In my posts I was referring to Russian state official policy - not Russian people.
And this policy apparently is to protect criminals.

so whatever he did can't be a big outrage

Yeah - murder of 14 people is nothing special...
Austrians arrested him, because there was issued an arrest warrant.
Lithuanians were asking Austria to extradite him, but they cowardly let him free.
Baltic states already have started to "make noise" about this.

Things like these simply can't be forgotten.

this university like many other universities and was simply closed and a warehouse was mare of it

What else you can do to an university after all teachers/lecturers etc. have been deported?

Originally Posted by nulle

What else you can do to an university after all teachers/lecturers etc. have been deported?

Just to close it, it was the only one thing what left for Russians to do and they liked it so much.

January Events (Lithuania) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Hanna - maybe do some research first...