Crocodile you and I simply have different viewpoints and there is no reconciliation. Your experience of socialism, Soviet style, was negative and you'd take almost any crap rather than something resembling that. I don't think that you believe that corporatism, capitalism or globalism are good and positive forces - it's just that it happens to be the opposite of socialism and communism.

My experience of a different kind of socialism in Sweden, was almost universally positive. Lovely ideals of fairness, solidarity, world peace, catchy songs and a sense of moral superiority... We called our state "The home for the People" where nobody should be left out. And it worked very well for many decades - it was extremely nice to live in a country with such ideals and it's still a much better country to be poor in, than the USA for example.

Perhaps your experience is more relevant because socialism was more strictly enforced in the USSR, or perhaps socialism was incorrectly applied and therefore your experience is not relevant. I don't know which. But we are talking based on different personal experiences - neither is right or wrong, it's a subjective subject.

But there is no point quabbling about it. I respect what you said and your viewpoint. The metaphor about the system admin was very sharp and interesting.

Plus, it is possible to want a fair, just and ecologically sustainable society without being a card carrying communist, Marxist etc. These ideologies have been very unfashionable all my adult life - they were practically completely discredited in the 1990s. I have never voted communist.