Thread: Who were demonstrating in Moscow last weekend?

That's true! I too remember that you said you were going to vote for him, Ramil!

Secondly, who is the biggest "threat" to Edinaya Rossia? Is it the Liberals or the Communists?

Originally Posted by Hanna

Secondly, who is the biggest "threat" to Edinaya Rossia? Is it the Liberals or the Communists?

Hanna, although Zhirinovsky's party is called "liberal democratic party of Russia" no one even in Russia called Zhirinovsky a liberal, even himself. Moreover, I think if anyone called Zhirinovsky a liberal in a discussion he could take it as an insult. (Term "liberal" gained negative meaning in Russia after so-called "liberal reforms" in early 90s although those reforms were not liberal at all, they were just robbing and totally criminal). Zhirinovsky registered and named his party in early 90s when the words "democratic" and "liberal" were extremely popular and beeing a populist he used them, but his rethoric always was ultra-populistic, nationalistic and pro-goverment in general. The party name became quite a brand since then so he decided to keep it I guess despite the terms became unpopular, he and his party members don't use the full name of the party because of that, only abbrеviation - LDPR. Communist is the main treat currently among registered candidates and I personally realising that, vote for them currently, just being pragmatic, not because I share all their views (I think, for example, that Stalin was a monster and horrible dictator and Zuganov says he was a great lider and the greatest hero ever). The main threat to Putin IMHO is well-educated middle class population of big cities who don't support Putin and EdRO in general, but unfortunately there is curently no "legal" political party or registered candidate in current president elections which presents that group. Yavlinsky could be called such a candidate at some extend, but Putin realised that and threw him off the race.

Originally Posted by Hanna

That's true! I too remember that you said you were going to vote for him, Ramil!

Secondly, who is the biggest "threat" to Edinaya Rossia? Is it the Liberals or the Communists?

You mean now? Putin, who else! United Russia discredited itself and now I feel that Putin will disband it.

Still, I feel I must enlighten you about sides in the current political struggle in Russia.
Putin is opposed not by those who waves 'Putin - go away' slogans on the streets. The *REAL* force who is trying to wrestle power from Putin is represented by these 'very nice' gentlemen (Medvedev was their candidate and a compromise Putin had to go for):

Oleg Deripaska



Suleyman Kerimov
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and Alisher Usmanov
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they provide the finance

plus political wing:

Anatoly Chubais
popov1.jpg

Igor Shuvalov
picture--240.jpg

and Alexander Voloshin
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Those, on the streets - are just a crowd of extras.

Never forget that politics really is a game about money, not freedom, better living standards or patriotism. Never forget that!

Originally Posted by Ramil

You mean now? Putin, who else! United Russia discredited itself and now I feel that Putin will disband it.

Still, I feel I must enlighten you about sides in the current political struggle in Russia.
Putin is opposed not by those who waves 'Putin - go away' slogans on the streets. The *REAL* force who is trying to wrestle power from Putin is represented by these 'very nice' gentlemen (Medvedev was their candidate and a compromise Putin had to go for):

Oleg Deripaska



Suleyman Kerimov
ee022c81a207d0bddcda67afb07e3ccd.jpg

and Alisher Usmanov
Alisher_Usmanov_21_October_2009.jpg

they provide the finance

plus political wing:

Anatoly Chubais
popov1.jpg

Igor Shuvalov
picture--240.jpg

and Alexander Voloshin
KMO_089355_00458_2_t208.jpg

Those, on the streets - are just a crowd of extras.

Never forget that politics really is a game about money, not freedom, better living standards or patriotism. Never forget that!

I've always thought Putin is the oligarchs' pick and that's why he's had all his influence all the way, and still does.