Thread: What do you think about the EU?

There is no external threat to Europe in the conventional way.
My opinion is that the biggest threat are the problems created by mass-immigration from the Middle East and Africa. I could say a lot of things about this, but will not, because of PC self-censorship. But it was not a wise idea to allow the situation to develop as it has.

Croc: EU is no more "globalisation" than Canada, the USA, the Russian Federation etc! In fact, less so, since the states are still single entities to the outside world. For example, California is much bigger than the average European country.
Actually I should probably say economic globalisation when I rant, because that's what I disagree with, not cooperation between states with a shared history and culture like Europe.

Interesting comments about the economics of war, by Ramil. If so, there is also a war against those countries that are under economic sanctions, right?

Originally Posted by Hanna

There is no external threat to Europe in the conventional way.

That is because you don't own or direct a business. The entire EU is under HUGE economical stress from both the US and China. Russia and Ukraine add up with their energy carrier power games. The OPEC acts aggressively as usual while having some kind of internal power and share disputes (Saudi Arabia vs Iran and previously vs Iraq). It's all very confusing and unpredictable. Throw in some internal issues like Greece's influence on the Euro and you'll get some sense.

Originally Posted by Hanna

The biggest threat are the problems created by mass-immigration from the Middle East and Africa. I could say a lot of things about this, but I won't. But it was not a wise idea to allow the situation to develop as it has.

The original text you had was much more detailed and honest. The new "I could say a lot of things about this, but I won't" seems like a gesture to the political correctness.

EDIT: Wow, you're still working on your post! Sorry about my comment then.

Nevertheless, the mass-immigration issue is hotly debated in any country. To the best of my knowledge, the only sensible solution to that issue is to allow the countries with bad economics to have a better economics. The globalization processes could help. As a country, if you're willing to 'plug into' the global economics and play by its rules, you'd benefit economically. The transparency, accountability and standardization are the keys. It doesn't really matter if a country adapts a monarchy or an anarchy. But many of the cultural values will be lost. So, it's the famous "Lexus and the olive tree" issue.

Originally Posted by Hanna

Croc: EU is no more "globalisation" than Canada, the USA, the Russian Federation etc! In fact, less so, since the states are still single entities to the outside world. For example, California is much bigger than the average European country.

EU is a very special globalization project in cultural sense. It tries to incorporate very different and powerful national cultures into one state.

Before there were empires, which did the same. But empires tried to do it on the base of the differentiation of functions between cultures. Which implies inequality in many senses. EU tries to do it on the base of economical and lifestyle unification and this is the idea of globalization.

USA is a pure national state while Russia keeps many features of empire.

(offtop: I started to type word "EU" in Russian layout and suddenly... )