Thread: Western Propaganda aka клюква lol

Originally Posted by Crocodile

I think I gave a good example - a person who produced more goods than the norm allows and sold it privately.

From the material of the employer? Which article of the penal code do you mean?

Originally Posted by Crocodile

That was penalized by the confiscation.

Only the court decided whether to apply confiscation in each case. Confiscation was not mandatory and was applied only to grave and exceptionally grave crimes. Commiting a venal crime was not an automatic reason for confiscation. Confisctaion could be not only of the whole property but also of 1/2, 1/3 or any other part of the property of the offender.

Originally Posted by Crocodile

For example: the peasants were supposed to work in the public fields using the means of production (the machinery, the seeds, etc.) provided by the collective household using the directions provided by the collective household. At the same time, those peasants were able to maintain the tiny pieces of land in their private use - they could use private means of cultivating the land and use the crop produced by that land to feed themselves and to sell the extra on the market. If they were found of cultivating more than the norm - they were penalized by confiscation.

Confiscation of the excess or of the whole property? This is bullshit. Producing something in excess of a norm is not a crime against property like theft. It could not be qualified as a grave crime unless the volume of the damage was enormous. Do you have any reference to such a case? What year it was, what was the volume of damage and what part of property was confiscated?

I also did not find any reference about that such norm that limited production ever existed.

Well, that's not entirely true. The nomenclature had it all by confiscating property from other people.

Any confiscated property went to the state, not to nomenclature. In the USSR even among nomenclature were no rich people even comparable to today's medium-successful businessman.

That's very sad. Like I said, if the personal belongings had been registered under the name of the thief's relative, they weren't confiscated as well by the Soviet State leading to the similar situation on the smaller scale.

Possibly, and what? This just means the investigation did not succeed to trace where the property gone.

I think that addresses a different concern. The Soviet Laws prohibited even the small enterprises. Had any of the enterprises been legally allowed, some of them would pay taxes and some of them would evade it.

Soviet laws were favorable to enterprises where all the participants worked themselves and collectively owned the means of production. Such enterprises were never prohibited.

Doomsday Machine (1976)

Звезда Давида на фуражке китайского коммуниста.


Советский космонавт, майор авиации Джорджиана Брански.
Папаха, есаульская шинель и красные казацкие погоны без знаков различия - широко известные элементы парадной формы советских летчиков.
В петлицах все те же израильские звезды.


Советский спутник называется просто и без затей: "Известия - 2".


А вот и пресловутый космонавт Меканов, исчезнувший вместе со спутником. Разумеется, коммунисты засунули его внутрь "Известий-2" и заставили участвовать в очередном бесчеловечном эксперименте. Товарищ Меканов стал одним из тех сотен безвестных космонавтов, жертв тоталитарной советской науки, которые погибли прежде, чем большевикам удалось успешно вывести на орбиту Гагарина.
Если не видно, на груди у него бирка с надписью: "ИГОР МИКАНОВА".

Originally Posted by BappaBa

Советский космонавт, майор авиации Джорджиана Брански.
Папаха, есаульская шинель и красные казацкие погоны без знаков различия - широко известные элементы парадной формы советских летчиков.
В петлицах все те же израильские звезды.

Пархатые большевицкие казаки (с)?

Originally Posted by Anixx

Пархатые большевицкие казаки (с)?

И что, нравится эта цитата?

Originally Posted by Lampada

И что, нравится эта цитата?

Ну что вы имеете в виду? Фраза была использована Юлианаом Семеновым, чтобы показать типичные вгляды на Красную армию немецкого генерала. По смыслу цитата очень подходит и к создателям данного фильма.