Thread: Western Propaganda aka клюква lol

Yes, what's going on with that space station really? Am I right to think that the new "International Space Station" is in fact the old space station "Mir"? And why are the space flight launched from the old Soviet launching location in Kazakhstan? How come Russia is able to run a space program but not the USA? I am not up to speed on this! Should be a thread about this really, it's interesting.

Originally Posted by Hanna

Yes, what's going on with that space station really? Am I right to think that the new "International Space Station" is in fact the old space station "Mir"? And why are the space flight launched from the old Soviet launching location in Kazakhstan? How come Russia is able to run a space program but not the USA? I am not up to speed on this! Should be a thread about this really, it's interesting.

The old space station has been taken out from the orbit directly to the ocean
The new International Space Station is actually new and it's international, built on money of several countries
Russia is still the most experienced country in space programs

Originally Posted by Hanna

And why are the space flight launched from the old Soviet launching location in Kazakhstan? How come Russia is able to run a space program but not the USA?

And what a problem? Americans don't have necessary rocket engines and other stuff. Only USSR (Russia) have experience of the maintenance such objects. But you will never hear that in US, of course.

Originally Posted by Hanna

And why are the space flight launched from the old Soviet launching location in Kazakhstan? How come Russia is able to run a space program but not the USA? I am not up to speed on this! Should be a thread about this really, it's interesting.

USA had several problems with their space shuttles and found them too complicated and unreliable. They stopped using shuttles, which were their actual technology for the space launching. Now they are developing alternative but it will take some time. On the other hand Russia (almost) always used old-good Soyuz rocket which is simple and reliable and much like first space rockets. So USA now use Russian rockets and facilities for their launches.

Originally Posted by it-ogo

USA had several problems with their space shuttles and found them too complicated and unreliable. They stopped using shuttles, which were their actual technology for the space launching. Now they are developing alternative but it will take some time. On the other hand Russia (almost) always used old-good Soyuz rocket which is simple and reliable and much like first space rockets. So USA now use Russian rockets and facilities for their launches.

This wiki article discusses one of the possible replacements for the space-shuttle, the Ares I rocket. But as the article notes, the projected cost per launch (that is, AFTER the research & development costs) could be around $1 billion -- versus about $150 million to get three US astronauts into orbit on a Russian Soyuz rocket!

I'm not exactly sure why NASA chose not to go back to the proven technology of the Saturn V rockets after the retirement of the Space Shuttle -- I suspect there's a complex mix of technical, budgetary, and stupid-politics reasons.

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

I'm not exactly sure why NASA chose not to go back to the proven technology of the Saturn V rockets after the retirement of the Space Shuttle -- I suspect there's a complex mix of technical, budgetary, and stupid-politics reasons.

Because in this case noone would be able to steal money from a billion dollars project
Every megamillion dollar project usually comes spiced up with a huge dash of bureaucracy and it's an easy to hide place for some not so legit actions. Cuts&Kickbacks or распилы и откаты is a common practice