Thread: We should be able to discuss....

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Yes, I'm sure it's just innocent passion only. Girkin admitted he was in the FSB until 2013 and was a retired Colonel. If you can't see the conflict of interest and problem there....But, why do I bother replying to you. LOL.

There are Serbs, Swedes, Greeks, Poles, French, Spaniards, Canadians, Americans fighting on rebels' side on the East of Ukraine. Should "the world" punish those countries too?
An American rebel in Ukraine | The Wider Image | Reuters
Несколько волонтеров из Испании прибыли в Донецк для помощи населению |
Греки воюют в рядах ополченцев ДН

Originally Posted by hddscan

There are Serbs, Swedes, Greeks, Poles, French, Spaniards, Canadians, Americans fighting on rebels' side on the East of Ukraine. Should "the world" punish those countries too?
An American rebel in Ukraine | The Wider Image | Reuters
Несколько волонтеров из Испании прибыли в Донецк для помощи населению |
Греки воюют в рядах ополченцев ДН

Was anybody accusing those countries with supplying military equipment, personnel etc. at the beginning?!? Are any of them in the FSB or Russian army or part of the Government of any of those countries? How does a section of territory of a country suddenly have full blown military equipment that can take on an army anyway (without assistance)?

I am fully against both sides but your question is rather ridiculous, sorry.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Was anybody accusing those countries with supplying military equipment, personnel etc. at the beginning?!?.

And that's a problem, don't you think? That all those countries "involved" in the conflict but only Russia gets the blame.

Originally Posted by hddscan

And that's a problem, don't you think? That all those countries "involved" in the conflict but only Russia gets the blame.

They didn't sanction a bunch of voluntary retirees or whatever they are. The Colonels and others involved in Novorossiya have high level military links, and was in the FSB. They're in the country who is a neighbour to the conflict. These are not ragtag veterans or soldiers. Do you not see the difference?!? Or are you just pretending?

Originally Posted by 14Russian

They didn't sanction a bunch of voluntary retirees or whatever they are. The Colonels and others involved in Novorossiya have high level military links, and was in the FSB. They're in the country who is a neighbour to the conflict. These are not ragtag veterans or soldiers. Do you not see the difference?!? Or are you just pretending?

Precisely, Ukraine is a neighbor and many people in Russia have relatives in Ukraine and many Ukrainians have relatives in Russia. So there is no wonder why so many people from Russia want to help Ukrainians who are still leaning to Russia.
To help you understand a little better Ukraine and Russia is like Canada and the US. Ukraine like Canada is always in a shadow of its more powerful neighbor and always try to be more independent. It's just Canada is more developed than Ukraine, so it is not easy to convince people there to start a revolt against government.