Thread: "Russophobia" and "Russophilia" :)

Originally Posted by Eric C.

If a state (that is, an institute that has protecting ppl's safety and their private property as one of its main purposes) instead robs people's houses and steals everything from them, even food, then you can certainly blame such a state for anything that those actions might possibly result in. If the majority of people in the area became victims of starvation because their food had been stolen from them --- it does look like a deliberately triggered starvation.

And Akinfeev let Lee Keun-ho make a 25 meter goal because he wanted Russia to lose to South Korea tonight in Brazil... I wonder if Kerzhakov will have him arrested for treason. LOL!
I think the drought and famine caused the starvation. That and the burning and sabotage of collectivist farms by the Kulaks who opposed the agricultural improvements. If I thought there was anything intentional about it I would call it attempted Ukrainian suicide.
And the more I think about Poroshenko the more I think it's a definite possibility...

Also, I totally do agree with SergeMak. The break-up of the USSR and everything that happened in the 1990's was an important learning curve for Russians. They are the only ones that really know what that was like so they are the people that have to make any final judgements and decide about their future... not us.

Originally Posted by UhOhXplode

I think the drought and famine caused the starvation. That and the burning and sabotage of collectivist farms by the Kulaks who opposed the agricultural improvements.

I wouldn't say of course it was an act of planned genocide against a nation, even though it looks like that from many perspectives. But you can't deny that what the commies did in the countryside in those times was total robbery of everyone who had anything to rob. And just before the famine, it had been food mostly. It went for the "purposes of supplying the working class" or whatever else BS they had to say. So, as the drought destroyed any current food people were growing, they also ran into the total absence of any savings they had made, and that was ultimately why they had literally nothing to eat...

And just in case you don't realize what those "collective farms" are, it goes like this: you're a farmer and you grow stuff and sell stuff from your farm, so now you disown your farm, and give it up to the state, and you're hired by the state to work on {formerly your} farm for something close to the current minimum wage. Pretty tough huh?