Thread: Local people comment what happened in Mariupol at 9th May (video) + related

Some good news coming, (in case it's not fake, of course) :

Ukraine claims victory as rebel fighters reportedly flee Slavyansk - Telegraph

Ukraine claims victory as rebel fighters reportedly flee Slavyansk
Rebel fighters abandoned their most important stronghold in the Donetsk region, according to reports in local media

Yes, what they called it was a "tactical retreat", but according to some news sources, it's just an euphemism for defeat. I hope Ukraine gets back its integrity pretty soon!

Now, this statement of one of the separatists should get you, Russians, really angry:

“Kutuzov also retreated, as was the plan,” he said, In an apparent reference to the 1812 battle of Borodino. “Russians only retreat before a decisive victory.”

They intentionally use every opportunity to boast about their alleged links to your country, deliberately making an international deal out of a local criminal gang thing. What do you say?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

Now, this statement of one of the separatists should get you, Russians, really angry

Wow, where is a moderator when you need one?

Originally Posted by hddscan

Wow, where is a moderator when you need one?

Originally Posted by hddscan

Wow, where is a moderator when you need one?

Why? If I were Russian, what that idiot said would get me real pissed off...

I mean, they're trying to get your country into their criminal gang stuff, isn't that enough???

Originally Posted by Eric C.

what that idiot said

Лампада, ты же ж напишешь же ж, что называть людей идиотами is not nice, правда ж ведь?

Originally Posted by lodka

Лампада, ты же ж напишешь же ж, что называть людей идиотами is not nice, правда ж ведь?

Защищать бандита по кличке стрелок - еще менее nice =))

Originally Posted by Eric C.

Why? If I were Russian, what that idiot said would get me real pissed off...

I mean, they're trying to get your country into their criminal gang stuff, isn't that enough???

Eric, I consider this post a primitive trollism. It is somewhat insulting to even read it.
But I'm going to accept your "confusion", even it looks like deliberately chosen bait.
You are confusing Russians with Russia.
From the day one of the conflict Russian officials were saying that there are many ethnic Russians in Ukraine and i don't see anything wrong with that expression said by potentially ethnic Russian.
As for "criminal gang stuff", there are many different opinions on that topic, some consider current Ukrainian president to be in "criminal gang stuff" but I don't see any point of discussing that with you, you made it very clear in your previous posts, that you prefer to deny any positive facts that would be related to Russians.
Just try not to throw insults and do not create ethnic and national hatred here.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

I hope Ukraine gets back its integrity pretty soon!

When you asked us "But what about you, Russian guys? So you ARE involved, or still not?", we answered here (although you seem to not care about our replies). Now I have a question to you, "What about YOU? Are YOU involved? What is YOUR interest if you HOPE something will happen in Ukraine?" Your position is Russophobic, still you can write a very good Russian, and you *hope* about some events in Ukraine. I'm beginning to have a guess...

Originally Posted by lodka

When you asked us "But what about you, Russian guys? So you ARE involved, or still not?", we answered here (although you seem to not care about our replies). Now I have a question to you, "What about YOU? Are YOU involved? What is YOUR interest if you HOPE something will happen in Ukraine?" Your position is Russophobic, still you can write a very good Russian, and you *hope* about some events in Ukraine. I'm beginning to have a guess...

Good question. Well, I'm involved there as much as caring about a country that's being attacked by inside criminal separatist groups. I'm rooting for Ukraine simply because I don't want THAT to happen to any other country in the world.

Originally Posted by lodka

When you asked us "But what about you, Russian guys? So you ARE involved, or still not?", we answered here (although you seem to not care about our replies). Now I have a question to you, "What about YOU? Are YOU involved? What is YOUR interest if you HOPE something will happen in Ukraine?" Your position is Russophobic, still you can write a very good Russian, and you *hope* about some events in Ukraine. I'm beginning to have a guess...

One more thing. My position about this matter can't possibly be Russophobic, because not only do I not assume any involvement of Russia in that conflict, but I'm actually trying to bring up the idea of Russia totally staying out of it. Now, what some of you guys are doing by saying that you and your country have sympathy for those separatist groups is that you in fact question the impartiality of your country in the matter. That is what could be called Russophobic, as it doesn't do good for the image of your country. I would probably think of it if I were you. =))

That country might have problems and features that not everyone likes, but they're better off fixing those by themselves. They do not need to give up a piece of their territory to *God knows whom* to start fixing them.