Thread: Interesting Hollywood propaganda movie about Russia.

Fromm - BBC interview and a lecture: My Top Videos - YouTube

Also an interesting person Victor Klemperer and his work related to observations about propaganda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_Tertii_Imperii we can see some of what he talked about working today.

Thanks

Sounds interesting, I never knew that British also used concentration camps... But I don't think it will be possible to find Victor Klemperer's book in Russian.

Originally Posted by Maria123

to capecoddah

Do you mean that they used the fact of keeping Eastern Europe and Berlin Wall to change people's opinion towards Russia?

You don't study well...

After World War 2, USA slowly gave control back to the occupied areas. France, Italy, etc. USSR kept everything.
USA slowly let Japan go.
Communist China Invaded South Korea (With USSR technological help "Mig")

So, 2 WW@ "Allies" went on an expansionist tear.
USA said "HEY! You shouldn't do that!"
And we fight proxy wars.

Is anyone innocent?
HET

If you think the USA is a "Colonial Empire",
go here:
RT

I don't want this topic to get political. (Thanks Basil!)

Originally Posted by capecoddah

...I don't want this topic to get political. (Thanks Basil!)

Just in case let me place it here.

Originally Posted by capecoddah

You don't study well...

After World War 2, USA slowly gave control back to the occupied areas. France, Italy, etc. USSR kept everything.
USA slowly let Japan go.
Communist China Invaded South Korea (With USSR technological help "Mig")

So, 2 WW@ "Allies" went on an expansionist tear.
USA said "HEY! You shouldn't do that!"
And we fight proxy wars.

Is anyone innocent?
HET

If you think the USA is a "Colonial Empire",
go here:
RT

I don't want this topic to get political. (Thanks Basil!)

I am asking questions because I want to know your opinions, not the description of the events, to which, by the way, I do agree...
And I do not understand why it is so difficult to answer them... without getting defensive.

Also "Colonial Empire" it is your term, I never said so. And I am not interested in discussing Colonial Empires or innocence of the politics. On the contrary, I assume that the politics is dirty.

I just still got no answer how (not why)...? Except for mr. Fromm's...

I'll try to explain.....Well, for instance, it is about 20 years now since USSR has gone, but our Government is still unable to convince the majority of people that one -ism is better than the other -ism (I do not want a discussion on -isms or why America/Russia is good or bad). Yet in case of US transition of majority from "one attitude" to "a contrary attitude " went very fast. So my question is how did it happened (or how did they managed) that people accepted the change (adopted the contrary attitude) so fast?

To capecoddah

Because
a. You don't study well...
b. "HEY! You shouldn't do that!"...
c. you think the USA is a "Colonial Empire"... is nice but still gives no answer.

I am rather asking on sociology or psychology of the phenomenon...
If you have any other idea, please, give me the reasoning (other from mr Fromm's) behind it... or a link to a video/text which explains it.

d. ?

Originally Posted by Seraph

Fromm - BBC interview and a lecture: My Top Videos - YouTube

Also an interesting person Victor Klemperer and his work related to observations about propaganda LTI – Lingua Tertii Imperii - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia we can see some of what he talked about working today.

It seems that your last post on William Schaap (William Schaap - Part 1/8 - The Media, CIA, FBI & Disinfo. - YouTube) has disappeared somewhere.... Funny, isn't it? But your info really adds to the picture. I just wonder why they decided to open the info to the general public? Probably it is not very relevant any more.
Thanks again.

I guess it became an 'unpost' ) The info was open to public, because it was actually in a trial, legal proceedings in a wrongful death law suit. Lots of info is available, but it suffers the fate of 'selective inattention' .

Originally Posted by Seraph

I guess it became an 'unpost' ) The info was open to public, because it was actually in a trial, legal proceedings in a wrongful death law suit. Lots of info is available, but it suffers the fate of 'selective inattention' .

In Russia they would say that the trial is a state security issue and would make the materials secret.