View Poll Results: What will happen during 2014 and after that?

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  • Eastern Ukraine will continue to be governed from Kiev after UA military has restored order

    3 15.00%
  • Eastern Ukraine will manage to achieve autonomous status within Ukraine.

    1 5.00%
  • Ukraine will become a federal republic with more freedom for Eatern Ukraine

    3 15.00%
  • Eastern Ukraine will declare independence and become a new country or "breakaway republic"

    3 15.00%
  • Eastern Ukranie will be annexed to Russia following a military intervention by Russia

    2 10.00%
  • The area will descend into chaos, civil unrest and/or civil war for a long time to come

    8 40.00%
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Thread: Future of Eastern Ukraine? / Будущее Восточной Украины?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77 View Post
    Eric, if you want to understand, why majority of Russians are justifying Crimea annexation and, after yesterday, invasion into continental Ukraine, you should bear in mind that these people, including me, think that border that appeared in 1991 between Russia and Ukraine is a joke and when USA and EU are messing with Ukraine they are messing with our internal affairs. Killed pro-Russian Ukrainians are considered as our compatriots and opposide side is considered as mad neo-nazi USA puppets.
    And don't put analogy with Baltic states, Finland, Poland, Middle-Asian stans (except Kazakhstan) and Caucasus, please. Baltics were always considered as "special snowflakes" even in Soviet Union. Despite some disputable cities, like Narva, no one here consider, say, Estonians our compatriots. But most questions with Baltic countries were succesfully solved in the last years, borders officially marked, etc. Ukraine is completley different case.
    I get it now. So, it's a psychological and mental issue. " you should bear in mind that these people, including me, think that border that appeared in 1991 between Russia and Ukraine is a joke." So, it was okay when Yanukovych was in power and that when Tymoshenko stole money and made sure that Putin had a cushy deal - that was okay because, in essence, Ukraine was somewhat of a de facto Kremlin government? Right? Thus, corruption, killing Ukrainian citizens that don't worship the Kremlin is justified to maintain the status quo and make sure that Ukraine steps in line of what the Kremlin wants. That makes sense.

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