Thread: Elections in Belarus

Originally Posted by belarusnews

Yeah, some teachers come to a village and work there in a library ))) By the way, will you choose to work in Chernobyl area?

So? What it has to do with state monopoly? Some people in any country and in any economy have cr@ppy jobs, and some don't have any. This is life. I don't see anything particularly horrible in working as a village librarian either. I almost moved to a village myself at one point of life.

What about Chernobyl zone - isn't it closed and out of limits? Or are you talking about people who service some technical stuff that is left there? I would not choose it, since my interests lay in another area, but if I'd get a good offer, I'd think about it.

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

So? What it has to do with state monopoly? Some people in any country and in any economy have cr@ppy jobs, and some don't have any. This is life. I don't see anything particularly horrible in working as a village librarian either. I almost moved to a village myself at one point of life.

What about Chernobyl zone - isn't it closed and out of limits? Or are you talking about people who service some technical stuff that is left there? I would not choose it, since my interests lay in another area, but if I'd get a good offer, I'd think about it.

Maybe you haven't grasped the exact point, but it's not just about having "cr@ppy" jobs, it's about FORCING everyone (who gets the so-called "free education") to have them.

And, belarusnews, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this practice of placing on jobs was abolished in Belarus right after the collapse of USSR and reenacted in 1998.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

Maybe you haven't grasped the exact point, but it's not just about having "cr@ppy" jobs, it's about FORCING everyone (who gets the so-called "free education") to have them.

Maybe it's you who haven't grasped my exact point. I don't consider all state jobs cr@ppy solely because they are state jobs. You people think for some reason that if the job is not provided by a private company it automatically makes a person an unhappy and repressed individual. I do not agree. So half of your arguments do not work for me.

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

Maybe it's you who haven't grasped my exact point. I don't consider all state jobs cr@ppy solely because they are state jobs. You people think for some reason that if the job is not provided by a private company it automatically makes a person an unhappy and repressed individual. I do not agree. So half of your arguments do not work for me.

If the jobs were just "provided", I would even consider that an advantage in some way... but FORCING someone to take a certain job (whatever sector of economy it belongs to) is unacceptable; if a person is satisfied with his/her placement, it's "half the trouble", but if not - it's just like kindof slavery...

Originally Posted by Eric C.

If the jobs were just "provided", I would even consider that an advantage in some way... but FORCING someone to take a certain job (whatever sector of economy it belongs to) is unacceptable; if a person is satisfied with his/her placement, it's "half the trouble", but if not - it's just like kindof slavery...

Where is forcing? If a person is unsatisfied with the placement they just pay the compensation and work wherever they want. If you break a contract you shall compensate it, shan't you?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

And, belarusnews, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this practice of placing on jobs was abolished in Belarus right after the collapse of USSR and reenacted in 1998.

If a state would give an opportunity either to pay for education and not to be placed on the state job, OR to get free education and be placed on the state job for some time - would you consider it an improvement?

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

If a state would give an opportunity either to pay for education and not to be placed on the state job, OR to get free education and be placed on the state job for some time - would you consider it an improvement?

I do not actually care about what kind of job a person gets. What matters is his/her actual free will to take that job and start working. What about improvements... if the state either starts providing everyone (passed certain tests or whatever) with real free education (without payments or compulsory working off afterwards) OR removes this fake form of free education and stops declaring it has free education of any kind, I would consider that an improvement...