Thread: Did my country really plan this????

Originally Posted by Throbert McGee

In short, a significant part of Clark's chosen civilian career has been to work as a booster and loyalist of the Democratic Party, which in our two-party system tends to make him an automatic opponent of whatever the Republican Party is doing and a detractor of major GOP politicians, including any Republican President. .

I thought there was something fishy about these supposedly explosive revelations, particularly all the Russian language comments and low view count on youtube, like no one else paid it any mind.

By the way, I was thinking more about my "subjective vs. objective" post. It occurs to me that of the three freedoms I listed (freedom of worship, freedom to have gay sex, freedom of the press), I would consider all three to be secondary-level freedoms -- not in the sense that they are less important, but in the sense that they can be derived as "logical consequences" of other freedoms.

I would suggest that the most important "primary freedoms" might include:

• Freedom of individual conscience
• Freedom to own private property
• Freedom of association among individuals

The number of logically necessary "primary freedoms" might be more than just the three listed, but even if one takes ONLY the above three as "axiomatically given," it seems not-too-difficult to develop arguments in favor of inalienable rights to worship freely, to have Weird And Sinful sex as long as it's consensual, and to publish controversial ideas.

But although such rights might be regarded as "inalienable," they are nonetheless non-primary. (You can derive a right to engage in consensual sodomy based on the assumption of "freedom of conscience" and "freedom of association," but not the other way around.)