Thread: Is default of Ukraine inevitable?

Ukraine default probability drops significantly after IMF announced new financial support packet for Ukraine
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Originally Posted by hddscan

Ukraine default probability drops significantly after IMF announced new financial support packet for Ukraine
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The theory is that the IMF won't loan any money unless they are assured it won't be used for the conflict. So, Russia can delay any loan by helping the rebels escalate or continue fighting.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

The theory is that the IMF won't loan any money unless they are assured it won't be used for the conflict. So, Russia can delay any loan by helping the rebels escalate or continue fighting.

I suspect that default of Ukraine would have helped to end the conflict, and I see nothing wrong with ending the conflict.

I guess investors didn't buy IMF's promises
Ukraine's default probability grows as sharp as it dropped

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Originally Posted by hddscan

I guess investors didn't buy IMF's promises
Ukraine's default probability grows as sharp as it dropped

Russia's ruble slides on 'junk' rating downgrade

Russia continues to slide, too. So, the Russian government contributes to destroying two economies....

Originally Posted by hddscan

I suspect that default of Ukraine would have helped to end the conflict, and I see nothing wrong with ending the conflict.

The best ending by me would be default of the so-called "rebels" and whoever's sponsoring them. I hope I didn't just say anything personal to anybody here.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Russia's ruble slides on 'junk' rating downgrade

Russia continues to slide, too. So, the Russian government contributes to destroying two economies....

форр ю, май диарр фрренд - Russia stocks Micex best performing 2-15 - Business Insider
I'm gonna go shovel some snow, and then drink some vodka with my pet bear, while playing my balalaika.

Originally Posted by hddscan

форр ю, май диарр фрренд - Russia stocks Micex best performing 2-15 - Business Insider
I'm gonna go shovel some snow, and then drink some vodka with my pet bear, while playing my balalaika.

I know that Russia has a drug problem but I really advise you against using Krok...

Probably the most optimistic outlook article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/03/wo...coff.html?_r=0

But, in reality...
Russia’s economy is so bad it has cut vodka prices - The Washington Post

Morgan Stanley thinks the Russian economy is doomed - Business Insider

Originally Posted by 14Russian

I know that Russia has a drug problem but I really advise you against using Krok...

Probably the most optimistic outlook article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/03/wo...coff.html?_r=0

But, in reality...
Russia’s economy is so bad it has cut vodka prices - The Washington Post

Morgan Stanley thinks the Russian economy is doomed - Business Insider

Interesting reality, looks like two different realities
BI article from Jan 30th claims that Russia is doomed but BI article from Feb 23rd says that Russia is doing great. Quite a recovery for one month.
But, anyway, I would worry if Russia's CDS spreads (currently 517) would reach Ukrainian CDS spreads (currently 2472) or Argentinian (currently 2987)
Those are the real "crappy economy" indexes not some "expert opinions" from Wall St.

Although I doubt that you are ready to talk numbers(or even understand them), keep chewing you propaganda.

Originally Posted by hddscan

Interesting reality, looks like two different realities
BI article from Jan 30th claims that Russia is doomed but BI article from Feb 23rd says that Russia is doing great. Quite a recovery for one month.
But, anyway, I would worry if Russia's CDS spreads (currently 517) would reach Ukrainian CDS spreads (currently 2472) or Argentinian (currently 2987)
Those are the real "crappy economy" indexes not some "expert opinions" from Wall St.

Although I doubt that you are ready to talk numbers(or even understand them), keep chewing you propaganda.

Whatever you say, Mr. Putinoid. Don't forget to pick up your cheque.

Russia to Draw Half Its Reserve Fund to Support Budget - WSJ

Russia to tap $50 billion from Reserve Fund as deficit balloons | Reuters

Russia to Take $50 Billion From Reserve Fund This Year to Plug Swelling Deficit | Business | The Moscow Times

Russia Seeks to Dip Deeper Into Wealth Fund to Cover Deficit - Bloomberg Business

" Russia signaled it would consider allowing Chinese investors to take majority stakes its strategic oil and natural gas fields, reversing years of opposition."

LOL. Another prediction I made that is coming true. Russia (Putin et al. - i.e. the government) is selling out to the Chinese. But, brainwashed Russians don't want to concede their traitorous government. Lots of Russians who stay publicly quiet - or only tell friends (people they trust) that Russia is trash and they are desperate to move. These are views held by citizens in Russia, not foreigners, not Americans. But, Putinoids have their heads in the sand and disregard/ignore such opinions and perspectives by their comrade neighbours. Fools!

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Whatever you say, Mr. Putinoid. Don't forget to pick up your cheque.

keep your tinfoil hat on and carry on

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Russia to Draw Half Its Reserve Fund to Support Budget - WSJ

Russia to tap $50 billion from Reserve Fund as deficit balloons | Reuters

Russia to Take $50 Billion From Reserve Fund This Year to Plug Swelling Deficit | Business | The Moscow Times

Russia Seeks to Dip Deeper Into Wealth Fund to Cover Deficit - Bloomberg Business

So, Russia uses its own money to pay for its own bills, takes money from the Reserve fund which was create exactly for that reason.
Let's make a fuss from it say it's a sign of economical disaster.
What a hoot.

Originally Posted by hddscan

So, Russia uses its own money to pay for its own bills, takes money from the Reserve fund which was create exactly for that reason.
Let's make a fuss from it say it's a sign of economical disaster.
What a hoot.

You're either extremely stupid or just pretending.

If you had a bank account of $100 and you had to use $70 or $80 (and this is a 'reserve'/savings), someone might say, oh, wow, he's having financial trouble.

"The increase means that Russia could spend well over half of the fund, currently worth $85 billion, in a *single year* - a rapid run-down of the fiscal buffers that underlines the precarious state of government finances.

Nesterenko said in the worst-case scenario, the Reserve Fund could fall to as low as 1 trillion rubles by the end of the year, implying over 80 percent of the fund could be spent. "

Yeah, I guess that is nothing. Nothing to worry about.... move along....

Originally Posted by 14Russian

You're either extremely stupid or just pretending.

Maybe you are an ignorant idiot or maybe you just pretending

Originally Posted by 14Russian

If you had a bank account of $100 and you had to use $70 or $80 (and this is a 'reserve'/savings), someone might say, oh, wow, he's having financial trouble.

Not if you created this account when you were selling something while prices were high and put some money aside to compensate your sales prices when they are low. It's called compensating risks. Of course if your bank account has been created to be used for something else but you have to use it now to compensate for your sales then you are in trouble but that's not the case we are discussing

It's it. Закроемся от греха подальше.