Thread: Is default of Ukraine inevitable?

Originally Posted by Eric C.

This time it's a bit more complicated, but as soon as every eastern Ukrainian realizes the language they speak is only secondary (at best) when it comes to their national identity, another geopolitical trick will result in another big piece of losses.

I sense that there is an assumption here that Ukrainian national identity is somehow under threat if Ukraine would lean to Russia.
Should I remind you that the very Ukrainian identity is currently under much bigger threat. First of all the Euromaidan had a goal to actually abandon Ukraine as independent country and move to Europe, hence the name. Second: radical ultra nationalism that is currently present in Ukraine might turn a word "Ukrainian" to "Nazi" or something similar, this was, for example used by the Western people when they called and some still do, Soviet(and now Russian) people as Reds, Commies etc., so even in Russia there is, currently, a lot of negativism toward anything Soviet, so 70 year of national identity is lost and patriotism was not popular for a long time.

Originally Posted by hddscan

I sense that there is an assumption here that Ukrainian national identity is somehow under threat if Ukraine would lean to Russia.
Should I remind you that the very Ukrainian identity is currently under much bigger threat. First of all the Euromaidan had a goal to actually abandon Ukraine as independent country and move to Europe, hence the name. Second: radical ultra nationalism that is currently present in Ukraine might turn a word "Ukrainian" to "Nazi" or something similar, this was, for example used by the Western people when they called and some still do, Soviet(and now Russian) people as Reds, Commies etc., so even in Russia there is, currently, a lot of negativism toward anything Soviet, so 70 year of national identity is lost and patriotism was not popular for a long time.

It could be that way, if everyone in the world considered their national pride "radical ultra nationalism", but we both know it's not the case, and also who does think so, and who doesn't.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

It could be that way, if everyone in the world considered their national pride "radical ultra nationalism", but we both know it's not the case, and also who does think so, and who doesn't.

Actually that is not true, not everyone need to think like that
And example with "Commies" confirms that