Да, сильно твоя свидомость болит, не зря на вас 5 лярдов амеры потратили.
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Россия запретила Джемилеву въезд в Крым
http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2014/04/22/7023214/
Депортация пока что не массовая...
American goverment cancelled announced in September 2013 tender for reconstruction of Sevastopol public school #5 into USA Navy ingeneering facility:
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=2bb691b6 1c59be3a68180bd8c614a0cb&_cview=1
http://imglink.ru/pictures/22-04-14/...93ddde208a.jpg
P.S. For me, personally, this fact alone justifies all Putin's actions in Crimea.
Минобороны РФ подтвердило начало военной операции по "возвращению Крыма" 20-го февраля 2014 года. Янукович тогда еще был действующим президентом Украины. Также это дата начала расстрелов людей на Майдане.
http://inforesist.org/wp-content/upl...0722c0502c.jpg
Нда, дадут кому-то по башке очень сильно за эту ошибку с датами. Ну, ничего, удар будет удержан, пропаганда что-нибудь придумает. Вот, эксперты же подтвердили, что можно стрелять в милиционеров, а попасть себе в сердце два раза. А доказательство такое, что у человека на спусковом курке своего собственного пистолета были свои собственные отпечатки пальцев. Вот как оно бывает.
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Originally Posted by thekievtimes.ua/society/363115-v-dele-o-smerti-sashi-belogo-postavlena-tochka.html
O_O Это посильнее, чем "упасть на нож, 5 раз подряд"!
Угу. Массовая депортация - это, видимо, когда всем россиянам скопом в определённых возрастных рамках запрещают въезд в Украину. (Или не запрещают? Там в один день то разрешают, то запрещают. Без поллитра не разобраться.)
Я всё жду когда ты перестанешь упорствовать в своём желании не соглашаться с очевидным - с тем, что в руководстве [как минимум обеих] государств сидят преступники. (И у них идут преступные разборки.)
Кстати, если тебе не сложно, когда перепостиваешь материал, по возможности читай оригинал. Там ни слова про Крым. Написано про запрет въезда на территорию РФ. ;)
С медалькой этой вообще история тёмная. Минобороны информацию о ней до сих пор официально не подтвердило. Единственное видео, где нечто подобное фигурирует:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXlPdFXBSRk
Как можно заметить, медаль там выглядит совершенно иначе. Хотя, официальных опровержений пока тоже не слышно.
С другой стороны, подготовительная фаза операции вполне могла начаться 20 февраля. Другое дело, что окончательное решение перейти к активной фазе наверняка принималось всё-таки позднее. Ну и, если медаль всё-таки настоящая, то, конечно, это было глупо - указывать на ней такую дату.
omg, Yes. I know it's not my country and not my business but I have to admit that I agree with Basil77. If this had gone on, there would have been a full fledged NATO base there within a few years. Apologies to it-ogo but it really makes me sick.
Clearly there is NO sea that NATO can leave alone.
NATO is using the Ukraine situation as an excuse to be zooming around with warships in the Baltic Sea, where they have NO business. That's MY sea, I grew up on the shore of that. I don't want NATO there!!! It's a matter of time before they set up shop in some old USSR naval base in one of the Baltic state and turn the whole Baltic sea into a playground for war games, annoying Russia and creating unnecessary tensions. I firmly believe in neutrality for our countries, and the status quo as it was was GOOD.
But NATO just can't leave our little sea alone, and clearly they had designs on the Black Sea as well! As far as I am concerned it's good that Russia stopped it in the Black Sea. What the hell business does the USA have there; their country is on the other side of the freaking Atlantic!
It wouldn't surprise me if they set something up in the Baltic states now, as a revenge that they couldn't get what they wanted in Crimea. We are probably next on the "roadmap" and if they target the Baltics they'll get whatever they point at and Russia will not (want) to do anything about it. Maybe I am reading too much into it but I get furious just thinking about the idea.
Oh dear. Who's going to get one of these medals then?
I am guessing Russia is planning the parade of all parades for 9 May in Crimea.
I think Russia should be really careful in all dealings concerning Crimea with Ukraine. It was good to read that everyone who wants to keep their UA citizenship can do that.
I feel myself an idiot. As many times as I read that text I didn't find anything about turning school into NATO facility. All I found is a facade renovation and windows replacement.
In the late 90s our scientific laboratory won NATO grant and got about $3000 for trips and expendibles. In exchange we mentioned that grant in the acknowledgements section of our scientific articles and that is all. We deal with fundamental physics, that was never secret and up to now our laboratory did not turn into NATO facility. Probably I missed something.
Well one is given to Aksenov, the formal ruler of Crimea after invasion (that one with a party of 3% rating on the last elections in Crimea.)Quote:
Oh dear. Who's going to get one of these medals then?
With the absense of free speech some of you has lost the ability not to read between the lines and clouds.
Yeah, sure. Sometimes they just do that as my experience says. Probably they spend some money to improve their reputation. Nevertheless I was able to benefit from that for free. And the school wasn't.
Maybe I was reading a lot into the renovation of a school, but it was to become a NATO school, wasn't it?
And with a broke, anti-Russian government in Ukraine, how long until the US could bribe themselves to set up a small facility in Crimea... and before you know it, you are stuck with a base that you couldn't get rid of come hell or high waters...
I don't know why they haven't set something up in the Baltic states - it's probably on its way.
I know they are lobbying like MAD for Sweden and Finland to join NATO. What's happening in Ukraine right now is playing right into the hands of the NATO lobbyists. The public opinion against NATO has never been weaker - people really bought into the "dangerous" Russia and terrorism talk. Plus a few papers have openly started supporting it. I am afraid that it's only a matter of time.
They really DO want to surround Russia with their bases. All evidence supports it.
And once their bases are in your country, you are nothing but a pawn in the game! So long as your interests don't majorly conflict with the USA's - fine. But if you ever have interests that seriously conflict with the USA, you have a big fat Trojan horse, possibly with nukes on your territory. Or a neighboring country. It really spooks me. That is the reality in Continental Europe, but in Scandinavia we have been mostly free from that - but that bugs them!
In Japan they can't get the USA out of Okinawa. In Afghanistan, the USA hangs on like a leech clinging to its host against even the wishes of their own handpicked guy. They are still around in the shadows in Iraq with privately employed soldiers. They have to bribe and play dirty not to get evicted from Central Asia and many Europeans would be very happy to see the back of them.
I swear they had their eyes on Crimea. I have no doubt about it, and many commentators support it.
If NATO wasn't so darn expansionist and aggressive, Russia could stop being some kind of paranoid chess player who may or may not be 'cheating" with green men and other tricks. I think the Eastern Europeans made a mistake when they joined NATO in the general mayhem of the 1990s. They should have taken a decade to let things settle and think everything through. But they got more or less hijacked, going against the agreement between the US and Russia about NATO expansion in the East. As a result we are seeing an increasingly paranoid Russia, and it seems justified to me at least. I think NATO was just about to get its clutches into Ukraine and that they've been pulling strings for a long time to get to that point.
Я тут ещё вот что вспомнил (извини за длинную копипасту):
Понимаю, что, конечно, не пускать популярного политика домой в Крым на пять лет - это можно только Украине, ибо есть демократия и свобода слова, а РФ нельзя ибо ни демократии не свободы слова нет. Это я так, к слову.Quote:
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Кадыров построит новую мечеть в Севастополе
Кадыров построит новую мечеть в Севастополе - Новости общества и общественной жизни - МК
Это им вместо ремонта школы.
Так запретили въезд или нет?
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Originally Posted by www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1510191
Беременные анижедети ни разу не фашисты, просто им нужны Крым и Кубань. И мотивчик такой знакомый, да, Лампада?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugrdeBHs6xc
Вот только что познакомилась:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xeCWGxGVUk&feature=youtu.be
Звучит натурально, но кто-то считает, что это подделка.
Интересно, а авторететное мнение ит-ого для тебя больше ничего не значит? Он абсолютно серьёзно и с уверенностью заявил, что работа СБУ - это обманывать собственное население. Вроде, ты читала и не возражала. А данный разговор предоставлен именно СБУ: Баркашов советует "впарить" Донецку итоги референдума - BBC Russian - В мире
Выводы каждый делает сам. :instruct:
Well, I got home yesterday, just in time to watch most of the voting in Eurovision and had quite the shock....
http://www.youtube.com/results?sourc...oed+eurovision
I could NOT believe my ears, when the audience in Copenhagen booed every time a country voted for Russia or Belarus!
I didn't hear either song, so I can't say if they were good, but I fairly am sure it was not the songs that were being booed.
It happened several times. I am not aware that any country has been deliberately booed before, and I've watched this darn thing at least 20 times.
And obviously, the bearded lady from Austria: Media in some countries run stories saying that Russia and Belarus tried to stop this transsexual from being in the final. I have no idea whether it's true or not. Definitely a futile struggle, they should not have bothered, if they did. "LGBT" is the chicest thing you can be at the moment, and anyone who says anything about it will have their character assasinated in media.
Probably the booing was not even related to supposed discrimination of this transsexual though, but Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, where they've been told that Russia is an evil villain.
Also the commentators made some rather snarky comments on the feed I listened to, which they would not have made against any other country, I'm pretty sure.
Googled and voila, yes - others noticed, several papers wrote about it.
Apparently there was booing in the semi-finals too, even more - I didn't watch that.
I wonder how much of the Eurovision budget Russia pays - guessing it's quite a fair chunk, the big countries pay the most. Maybe Russia should just pull out and take its money with it. It's just humiliating for the artists and the country. Or do you go on, in a situation like that to not give in to bullying? I don't know but I have NEVER seen a country get booed in Eurovision.
It was before my time, but several fascist dictatatorships used to particpate: Spain, Greece and Portugal back in the days. I doubt anyone booed them. During the Cold War era a few Eastern countries participated on and off and I vaguely recall it. No booing then either. Media did not stir people up with agitation like they practically do today.
@ Hanna: There was obviously a lot of uncivilized people at Eurovision this year. And any musical contest that attracts political thugs loses it's rep as a legit contest. Eurovision = Epic Fail in 2014.
Anyway, I'm not all over pop music but I definitely thought Shine owned Rise Like A phoenix. And whatever that Conchita Worst thing was could give someone nightmares! I hope I never see anything like that again!
The Donetsk and Lugansk referendum votes started at 08:00 (their time). The Donetsk voting stations will be open till 22:00 (their time) but some places will have to close at 15:00 (their time) due to dangerous conditions in cities like Slavyansk. And only 8 voting stations could be opened in Mariupol. All the cities are on high alert for provocations intended to disrupt the vote.
Anyway, we should start hearing something after 14:00 (my time) - 00:00 (Moscow time)... I think I'm getting jet lag.
regarding Eurovision; in my opinion 'Austria' was actually one of the the best performances/song and Conchita a deserving winner (though personally I liked the contribution from Holland the most). As too the booing on points to Russia I find that just as wrong and misplaced as Russia/Belarus trying to have Conchita disqualified/discredited before the final.
the way I understand is that the orginal sort of founding countries pay the big chunk of the budget. i think Sweden, German, France, Italy, Spain and some others are amongst them. they pay the most - and in return they have automatic entry to the finals. Russia has a massive budget; but for themselves and not as contribution to the event. If Russia should pull out makes no difference financially to the event; but culturally it would be a loss.