Crocodile isn't the troll here I am... Sometimes, at least. I just type whatever comes into my head and half the time I haven't got the time or energy to follow up on discussions. Plus I am rather flexible about my opinions and sometimes I change my mind after reading what someone else says...

But back to Israel; regardless of what you think is wrong with Israel and zionism (probably plenty....),I think people who are Christian should bear in mind that Israel coming into being is pretty much considered to be the fulfillment of biblical prophecy... Or do you simply disregard that? It doesn't mean one has to support everything that Israel does.. but it's not just any little country causing mischief... It's a bit special. I can't help but being willing to give it an extra chance, for that reason. That said; I certainly think they should stop building on the West Bank and try to be the most inclusive society they possibly can. In my current job I recieve software releases from a company in Israel and almost everyone I deal with seems to be Russian.