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    @Antonio1986

    If this makes it easier for you to make sense of the phrase, then sure, think of it as a cut off from "что мне (надо) (с-)делать". I personally don't see anything missing in just "что мне делать". It's a fully sell-sufficient construction. Where мне just indicates the recipient of the action делать, that's what the dative is for after all, to indicate who's given something and that doesn't just mean an object, it can very well mean an action. This construction is impersonal, so it's very natural to use this to ask, say, your boss, what he wants you to do.

    On a side note, I find it very curious that English speakers, for instance, prefer the use of "how do I do something" over "how to do something". E.g. A google query: "how do I install Windows" - 160 million, "how to install Windows" - just 34. From my Russian point of you:

    How do YOU do something is your business, you're asking how others did that or rather for (a) successful way(s) of doing that, which others have already worked out. So an impersonal structure that should be.
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    That's an especially interesting difference in numbers since, I would think, people don't necessarily speak the way they ought to google. When googling, people are supposed to be googling what they imagine the title of what they're trying to find would be, not just asking a question to google as if it is an A.I.

    Anyway, you're definitely right. English lacks a good impersonal construction so it comes out with "How do I..." or even "How do you..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCake View Post
    @Antonio1986

    If this makes it easier for you to make sense of the phrase, then sure, think of it as a cut off from "что мне (надо) (с-)делать". I personally don't see anything missing in just "что мне делать". It's a fully sell-sufficient construction. Where мне just indicates the recipient of the action делать, that's what the dative is for after all, to indicate who's given something and that doesn't just mean an object, it can very well mean an action. This construction is impersonal, so it's very natural to use this to ask, say, your boss, what he wants you to do.

    On a side note, I find it very curious that English speakers, for instance, prefer the use of "how do I do something" over "how to do something". E.g. A google query: "how do I install Windows" - 160 million, "how to install Windows" - just 34. From my Russian point of you:

    How do YOU do something is your business, you're asking how others did that or rather for (a) successful way(s) of doing that, which others have already worked out. So an impersonal structure that should be.
    I fully understand what you want me to understand.
    When I started to learn Russian it was impossible for me to understand these constructions:
    1. Как мне доехать в центр города?
    2. Вам подвезти?
    3. Вам помочь?

    In Greek all these verbs should conjugate! Worst, in English the ommission of the subject is unthinkable.
    For example in example 2. and 3. you don't understand who is the subject of the phrase!
    Кто предлагает помочь вам? Я или кто-нибудь другой?
    Чем больше слов, тем меньше они стоят.

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