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  1. October 28th, 2006, 04:26 PM #1
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    Сей?

    What's up with this pronoun? I guess it's must often seen in до сих пор, but when do you use it? Is it old? Completely synonymous with Этот? Literary? Неграммотный? I just saw it in this context:
    "Вы узнаете сию даму?"
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  2. October 28th, 2006, 04:38 PM #2
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    Yeah, it's archaic Russian for "this". Do you recognize it in this word?
    Сейчас! (сей час = this hour = right now)
    Hei, rett norsken min og du er død.
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    Re: Сей?

    Quote Originally Posted by Бармалей
    What's up with this pronoun? I guess it's must often seen in до сих пор, but when do you use it? Is it old? Completely synonymous with Этот?
    It is old, it is completely synonymous to этот. Besides "до сих пор" and "сейчас", think "сегодня" = this day, literally
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  4. October 28th, 2006, 05:17 PM #4
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    Re: Сей?

    Quote Originally Posted by Бармалей
    Неграмотный
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.
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  5. October 28th, 2006, 05:39 PM #5
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    сию минуту!

    Yes, olde-timey word, usage left in a few fixed expressions. I would guess it lends a folksy tone when used instead of этот. I wonder if it's not like the phrase "this here" as in This here forum's a mighty nice one, you betcha!
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    I guess it can be used ironically.
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  7. October 28th, 2006, 08:01 PM #7
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    Not used often at present, but adds a bit of ironical implication.
    I often use it in informal speech because I think it sounds funny
    -- Да? Коту Ваське, бл##?
    -- Нет, Я кот Васька :-/
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  8. October 28th, 2006, 08:48 PM #8
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    сей но мор
    Hei, rett norsken min og du er død.
    I am a notourriouse misspeller. Be easy on me.
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  9. October 28th, 2006, 09:32 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    сей но мор
    say не так произносится! :P
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.
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  10. October 28th, 2006, 10:16 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    сей но мор
    мор тоже :P
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  11. October 28th, 2006, 10:51 PM #11
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    ну, если очень стараешься! :P
    Hei, rett norsken min og du er død.
    I am a notourriouse misspeller. Be easy on me.
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  12. October 29th, 2006, 12:36 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    сей но мор
    You are officially a dork. I actually thought about that for second, until I realized that, alas, it's just your dorky-sense of humor.

    If MasterAdmin has any sense of justice, he will now change your title from "Завсегдатай" to "MR Главный Доркчик". :P
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  13. October 29th, 2006, 01:09 AM #13
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    You are very welcome!
    Hei, rett norsken min og du er død.
    I am a notourriouse misspeller. Be easy on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    Yeah, it's archaic Russian for "this". Do you recognize it in this word?
    Сейчас! (сей час = this hour = right now)
    And "сегодня": сего дня (of this day).

    "15 января с.г."... too.
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».
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  15. October 29th, 2006, 10:34 AM #15
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    Yonder man - over there...
    If some of Englishspeaking members remember this word. Many actually don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Propp
    Yonder man - over there...
    If some of Englishspeaking members remember this word. Many actually don't
    What? "Yonder" is big in the south...but what does that have to do with this? And I've never heard someone say "Yonder man"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    сей но мор
    It's OK for Indian English
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  18. October 30th, 2006, 04:59 AM #18
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    Yonder man - over there...
    If some of Englishspeaking members remember this word. Many actually don't
    Это слово нечасто употребляется, но все же я его слышу примерно один раз - через неделю.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Бармалей
    Quote Originally Posted by Propp
    Yonder man - over there...
    If some of Englishspeaking members remember this word. Many actually don't
    What? "Yonder" is big in the south...but what does that have to do with this? And I've never heard someone say "Yonder man"...
    I thought it was an archaic pronoun, may be of the same type as Сей in Russian.
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  20. October 30th, 2006, 07:59 AM #20
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    It's a pretty good example actually.

    Anyone who doesn't think so must be a bit... rustic
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