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    For whom?

    I'm aware this topic is not among the uncommon ones - However, the sentence taken out from a dialogue below still puzzles me:

    Автор: Когда смотришь мой фильм, думаешь, что балетная школа - как армия.
    Журналистка: Это мы с вами так думаем, а для _______ подруги и ______коллег это совсем нормально.

    Thx in advance.

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    "для вашей подруги и ее коллег"

    Here is a compound sentence. Second clause (which we need) is: "для _______ подруги и ______коллег это совсем нормально" (for ... it is quite normal). Here subject is "это". The girlfriend here is not a girlfriend of "это" and the colleagues are not colleagues of "это" so "свой" is inacceptable in all cases. "Свой" can be related to the subject of the same clause only.

    To detect structure of the sentence you can remove word by word: select which word can be removed without removing others and the last word remained is a subject. It is quite an intuitive way but it helps me.

    для вашей подруги и ее коллег это совсем нормально =>
    для подруги и коллег это нормально =>
    для подруги это нормально =>
    это нормально =>
    это

    for
    your friend and her colleagues it is quite normal =>
    for friend and colleagues it is normal =>
    for friend it is normal =>
    it is normal =>
    it is =>
    it
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Makes sense now. Looks like I screwed up at identifying the subject.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo;250139для [COLOR=#0000ff
    вашей[/COLOR] подруги и ее коллег это совсем нормально =>

    for
    your friend and her colleagues it is quite normal =>
    BTW, "совсем нормально" sounds awkward to me. I would rather say "вполне нормально" instead. "Вполне нормально" = "quite normal".
    "Абсолютно нормально, совершенно нормально" would also work perfectly well.

    "Совсем" is more difficult to explain. I would try to say it implies that the quality is somewhat higher than normal, or it reaches its upper possible limit. E.g., "совсем тёмный" = so dark that it cannot be darker, "совсем тяжёлый" = so heavy that I did not expect it to be so heavy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман View Post
    BTW, "совсем нормально" sounds awkward to me. I would rather say "вполне нормально" instead. "Вполне нормально" = "quite normal".
    "Абсолютно нормально, совершенно нормально" would also work perfectly well.

    "Совсем" is more difficult to explain. I would try to say it implies that the quality is somewhat higher than normal, or it reaches its upper possible limit. E.g., "совсем тёмный" = so dark that it cannot be darker, "совсем тяжёлый" = so heavy that I did not expect it to be so heavy...
    Yet another question that's been bothering me for a while has just been answered. I've missed this forum. It's nice to be back after a long hiatus. Even tho with a new account.

    I appreciate your input!

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