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    Quote Originally Posted by Gottimhimmel View Post
    One of the meanings given to the verb Находить: Come (over На+Acc case): Could anyone provide me an example where this would apply? I am not sure what the dictionary means here.
    Maybe out of context, but I will describe different forms of "находить" and their relations.
    "Находить" can be disassembled as "на-" prefix (over, atop, from above) and root "ходить" (to walk, to go). So it's meaning is something like "to be in moving state and step on something/meet something". For example "волна находит на берег" (wave hit shore).
    However this has created new meaning "to find something" because "you walk and accidently step on coin". It is new meaning and prefix has melted with root and new solid word was born "находить" as "to find".
    At the same time "находить" in the first meaning "to walk on/over/atop something" with self-action (return-action) particle "-ся" that is "находиться" is "to walk on/over some location (not leaving it)", so it become "to be located on/in". For example "он хочет находиться в удобном номере гостиницы".
    So, it is can vary in meaning between different forms as come, find, to be located and more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex80 View Post
    At the same time "находить" in the first meaning "to walk on/over/atop something" with self-action (return-action) particle "-ся" that is "находиться" is "to walk on/over some location (not leaving it)", so it become "to be located on/in".
    I believe, it was the second meaning (“to find”) that the word находиться “to be located” was formed from. The suffix -ся marks passive here. «Что-то находится где-то» — (literally) “Something can be found somewhere” — “Something is located somewhere”.

    Moreover, находиться is most likely a calque of German sich befinden “to be located” (lit. “to find oneself”).
    Please correct my English

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soft sign View Post
    I believe, it was the second meaning (“to find”) that the word находиться “to be located” was formed from.
    I agree. Meanings are melted and after thinking I agree that "located"-form is derived from "find"-form.

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