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    I think "одному" correlates with "своих" and stresses the fact that the very difficult task was completed thanks to the efforts of one person. Imagine the following picture: a person carrying somebody seated on his shoulders. That is not a group task.

    As for the other part of your question, you could either say: "Самостоятельно справиться с чем-нибудь трудным", or "Справиться самостоятельно с чем-нибудь трудным", or "Справиться (как? каким образом? кому придётся справляться?) [ему] одному (=on his own) с чем-нибудь трудным".

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    Tks

    Thank you. I will study carefully your answer.

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    Один:
    Количество 1. Одному человеку с этим не справиться.

    справляться: - он не справится с этим делом — he won't be able to cope with it
    он не справился со своей задачей — he was not equal to the task at hand

    Both nom. and dative are correct with the verb справляться but the dative is functioning as a logical subject of an infinitive (Wade -Russian Grammar pg. 121).

    Справиться одному с чем-нибудь трудным.
    Одному being the logical subject of an infinitive.
    Что детям делать?
    Детям being the logical subject of an infinitive.
    Кому - нары, кому - Канары.

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    Thanks

    OK. So I read in my grammar, Dative case is used also with impersonal verbs to express the state or situation where a person is and gives the example: Мне не спиться = I can't sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radomir View Post
    OK. So I read in my grammar, Dative case is used also with impersonal verbs to express the state or situation where a person is and gives the example: Мне не спиться = I can't sleep.
    Thank you all.
    Just in case, the right one would be "мне не спится" (without "ь"). Meanwhile your version means "I can't get into drinking". Hope, you're not very confused. =)

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    OK

    You're completely right. But I have copied such as it is in the book. Just now I have modified the phrase. Such as you say is also in the dictionary "мне не спится"; "ему сладко спится". Perhaps the author was thinking in "мне не спаться" ?. It is the first mistake I find in it .
    Thank you.

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    "мне не спится"; "ему сладко спится" - right
    Perhaps the author was thinking in "мне не спаться" ?. - wrong
    Please, correct my mistakes, except for the cases I misspell something on purpose!

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