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I was watching a Russian movie and heard it a lot...I just don't know which word exactly is it. I know from the translation it's "fucking" used as a filler word...like
I am fucking tired
I fucking hate this weather
Can anyone let me know what's the Russian equivalent? Dictionaries and translators are not often friendly to obscenity, but for understanding of all walks of life this information shouldn't be kept away
Here is Rus-Eng obscene vocabulary.
The universal way to make any sentence in Russian obscene (and more expressive) is (select the following) to insert at any place of sentence particle бля or блядь separated by commas. "Я, блядь, ненавижу эту погоду."The particle literary means "whore" .
Keep in mind that using obscenity in contemporary Russian is more restricted than in contemporary English. For example translated movies do not normally contain obscenities even if they contain obscenities in original.
пиздец как, охуеть какQuote:
Originally Posted by Valda
неебически
I am fucking tired - я неебически устал
I fucking hate this weather - я пиздец как ненавижу такую погоду
they're not exactly interchangeable and have to fit the context
in these examples fucking is translated as an intensifying word meaning very, extremely
if you need just a filler word it will be either блядь (stronger) or сука (lighter)
these as well can serve as intensifying words with the right syntax
Блядь, как (же) я устал!
Сука, как (же) я ненавижу эту погоду!
both these sentences are very emphatic
they however don't necessarily have to contain obscene vocabulary
in them, боже, ёлки, чёрт can be equally used instead of блядь/сука
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on the other hand these examples won't apply when fucking is used as adjective like
he's a fucking idiot
i jumped on my fucking bike and took off
чертовски = very, but more expressive and could be used in viirtually all situations and in movies
too literary and archaic, never heard it being used in a real life situation, it's a word they use to translate from EnglishQuote:
Originally Posted by maxmixiv
you'll be looked at strangely if you use it colloquially
О да, среди "я неебически устал" и "я чертовски устал", второй вариант, конечно же, устаревший и люди использующие его какие-то непонятные чудаки.Quote:
Originally Posted by LXNDR
For English speakers in a nutshell: that's not true.
i'm not going to persuade anyone to anything, i'm proponent of free choice
i'm not here to compete with anybody or foam at the mouth arguing
the life and your personal experience will give you the right perspective
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i'll only tell that i don't accept the way delog voices his opinion
he tries to just discredit my point of view instead of engaging in a constructive discussion explaining his own, this doesn't benefit anyone, but delog's ego
i also feel that this person might be having prejudice against obscene vocabulary
так что....
Hmm, I guess that ёлки is a euphemism for Ё.Т.М.? I have a slang dictionary that includes Ёж твою двадцать! as another "phonetic replacement" euphemism... is that actually used? And are there other euphemisms for this phrase?Quote:
Originally Posted by LXNDR
(And Valda, I would guess that бля is what they were actually saying in the movie you saw... as others have pointed out, Russian movies are unlikely to use stronger words than that -- even though the English subtitle, "fucking", is theoretically stronger in English than бля is in Russian.)
that's correctQuote:
Originally Posted by Throbert McGee
Ёж твою двадцать! i don't remember hearing but this could be regional and it sounds completely legit
i heard Ёрш твою меть! Туды ж твою мать!, Етить твою мать! (етить is an archaic synonym of ебать, but today it doesn't sound as obscene as ебать)
there's a variant Едрить твою налево
derivatives Ёшкин кот, Ёкэлэмэнэ, Ёперный театр
here's a list of synonyms
ёб твою мать (ёб твою мать синонимы, синонимы к ёб твою мать)
super creative
the majority of euphemisms to ЁТМ are very folksy and their usage may indicate a member of a certain social group and mostly of an older generation
yeah i agree that's most likely what she heard, an expletiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Throbert McGee
a phonetic euphemism to бля(дь) is блин
other expletives are сука and на хуй or just на added at the end of a word
there's couple of jokes based on this
- у меня есть дом на
- зачем тебе домна?
- а я в нем живу на
- Алё на ! Это Я на
(Алёна [Helen] and Яна [Joanna]- are feminine names)
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Originally Posted by LXNDR
Your explanation was misleading and you know it very well. I don't know why you are doing that and why you are trying to put a brave face on a sorry business.Quote:
Originally Posted by LXNDR
How did you came up to this conclusion? I wrote only the two sentences that have nothing to do with your statement. I think you're trying to depict me in a unfavourable light again.Quote:
Originally Posted by LXNDR
Что за ерунда? Зачем нам здесь какие-то персональные разборки?
i would only have a discussion with maxmixiv since it's his post that i commented on, but that's about it
А я что?
Я полностью согласен с it-ogo, чтоДаже в "The Big Lebowski" переводчики ограничились "сука", "какого хрена", и "долбанный". Разве что в "South Park" можно услышать всякое, но его сейчас переводят непрофессионалы.Quote:
using obscenity in contemporary Russian is more restricted than in contemporary English. For example translated movies do not normally contain obscenities even if they contain obscenities in original.
Я не хотел бы вступать в разборки (или discussion), но иностранцев с панталыку мы сбивать не имеем права: все твои варианты применяются, но только не в кино. В фильмах только: "блин", "сука", ... "чертовски" :mosking:
Вот придёт Valda и всех рассудит...
справедливоQuote:
Originally Posted by maxmixiv
я лишь отвечал на вопрос исходя из того, как он был задан
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Originally Posted by Valda
LXNDR, не надо мутить воду и путать иностранцев выдуманными заморочками и откровенно неправильными установками. В английском нет мата в русском понимании этого слова, поэтому переводить все матами - это некорректно. Да и ваше понимание русского языка отдает провинциализмом.
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Originally Posted by Paul G.
i'm not claiming to be St. Petersburg resident, neither to be a philologist or Russian language teacher
with obscene language i only translate obscene language, not everything, it's that simple
but thank you for your input
Mat is not used in Russian films. Recently the restrictions became lighter, though. In Soviet times the restricted set was wider so the speech in films was much different from that in realty.
You're correct-- it was actually from a computer games, but watching the long cutscenes is like watching a movie, so I decided to skip this explanation and just say movie. I regret it now, seeing it caused a bit of confusion!
I know мать, like бля, на хуй... etc etc... I didn't hear it! But, I'd let it go for now :) If I'll ever figure out it was a different word I'll post back to let you know..
Much appreciate the replies.
Since what I watched takes place in the middle ages, it's not that unlikely... even if it's archaicQuote:
О да, среди "я неебически устал" и "я чертовски устал", второй вариант, конечно же, устаревший и люди использующие его какие-то непонятные чудаки.
For English speakers in a nutshell: that's not true.
I appreciate all the replies, regardless :)
Valda, just give us the fucking word! ;)
Let me see if I can find it... :)
Not 100% sure that's it, but I think I found it...I just uploaded the audio file for that segment...it's like 17 seconds..
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The file is called "Curseword"...do you hear any?
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Originally Posted by Valda
there're no curse words in the clip
they say
Long live the king!
The king!
So where are we heading brethren?
(unintelligible)
So what do we need, brethren?
Victory! Victory!
Keep it up!
So in the English translation (in the subtitles) they added the word "fucking" in between ... (The subtitles say "where are we fucking headed") huh. Interesting. Thanks for the clarification.
not sure why they did itQuote:
Originally Posted by Valda
the Russian text is
Так куда мы, братцы, направляемся?
so ostensibly it's this братцы (brethren) that they translated as fucking which is utter nonsense
I trust 100% your translation, it makes sense. I think I understand why they did it. It's mismatch between the dubbed versions since the original text and audio comes from the polish version. So, Russians and Americans translated it differently.