Thread: kotoryi

Hello,
Is this right for 'i saw the man which is with the girl'

Я видел человека, с которым девочкой.
Я видел человека, который с девочкой.

or something else?
thanks

Я увидел мужчину, с которым девушка

I saw the MAN, with whom is the girl

Notice that увидеть is the perfective.

I am confused since the English is not quite correct but here is my guess at what you are trying to say:

Я увидел человека, который был с девочкой.
I saw the person who was with the girl.

yeah, I guess one can't have two tenses in the same sentence. I hereby change my sentence to:

Я увидел мужчину, с которым была девушка

I saw the man, with whom was the girl

Is this right for 'i saw the man which is with the girl'

You have two tenses goin on at the same time...

"I SAW the man, who IS with the girl."

It really depends what you are getting at...

I saw the man, who was with the girl.
я увидел мужчину, который был с девочкой.

I saw the man, with whom was the girl.
я увидел мужчину, с которым была девочка.

Well, ......I vote for Klinka V's first post!!!

Basically the guy needs to learn to speak English properly first.

It is not his fault Taty. If he said "
I saw the man, WITH WHOM is the girl " he runs the risk of being beat up and thrown into a dumpster, in New Zealand. Ah, but what do you expect from a place where "formal attire" includes a pair of thongs on your feet.

Originally Posted by DDT

It is not his fault Taty. If he said "
I saw the man, WITH WHOM is the girl " he runs the risk of being beat up and thrown into a dumpster, in New Zealand. Ah, but what do you expect from a place where "formal attire" includes a pair of thongs on your feet.

They don't have dumpsters in NZ. Just sheep.

Originally Posted by DDT

Ah, but what do you expect from a place where "formal attire" includes a pair of thongs on your feet.

Just to clarify, what exactly do you mean by "thongs"? I'm getting a very strange image in my head - I thought thongs were meant to be worn somewhere else

http://www.swimsuitsforall.com/Shop-read-909.html

In the US and Australia and NZ a thong can also be flip-flops.

I would like to tell you that my original sentance DOES make sense.

"I saw the man which is with the girl."

As in the man who is with the girl RIGHT NOW.


Don't hassle New Zealand, just because a few thousand people hump sheep doesn't mean we all do.

Originally Posted by basurero

Don't hassle New Zealand, just because a few thousand people hump sheep doesn't mean we all do.

How can you tell when your house has been burgled by a Kiwi?

Originally Posted by DDT

How can you tell when your house has been burgled by a Kiwi?

How?

Originally Posted by basurero

I would like to tell you that my original sentance DOES make sense.

"I saw the man which is with the girl."

As in the man who is with the girl RIGHT NOW.

Err no, it doesn't. At all.

"I saw the man who is with the girl."

or even

"I saw the man that is/ that's with the girl."

You categorically cannot use 'which' here (and you don't need to use 'with whom' in this case either)

Originally Posted by basurero

I would like to tell you that my original sentance DOES make sense.

"I saw the man which is with the girl."

As in the man who is with the girl RIGHT NOW.


Don't hassle New Zealand, just because a few thousand people hump sheep doesn't mean we all do.

"I saw the man which is with the girl" is not grammatical.
Firstly, I don't think you can use 'which' with people.
"I saw the man who is the with girl"

In which case in Russian it would be:
Я увидел человека, который с девочкой
or
Я увидел человека, с котором девочка

Maybe both are OK.

Originally Posted by TATY

Я увидел человека, который с девочкой
or
Я увидел человека, с котором девочка

Maybe both are OK.

Нет, оба предложения неправильные.
Правильно: Я увидел мужчину, который был с девочкой.
Я увидел мужчину, с которым была девочка.
Я вижу (видел, увидел) мужчину с девочкой.
(Девочка тоже человек. )
Можно сказать: Я увидел человека с ребёнком.
Я увидел людей с детьми.

Originally Posted by Lampada

Originally Posted by TATY

Я увидел человека, который с девочкой
or
Я увидел человека, с котором девочка

Maybe both are OK.

Нет, оба предложения неправильные.
Правильно: Я увидел мужчину, который был с девочкой.
Я увидел мужчину, с которым была девочка.
Я вижу (видел, увидел) мужчину с девочкой.
(Девочка тоже человек. )
Можно сказать: Я увидел человека с ребёнком.
Я увидел людей с детьми.

Hmm. I disagree about the tense.

In English we are saying. I saw the man, who is with the girl (i.e. right now he is with the girl, but I saw him before).
or in other words. "The man with the girl. I saw him yesterday"

So there shouldn't be any был or была.