Finding the soft sign hard
I hate that soft sign. Why have a letter that doesn't have a sound? Well, no sound that my ears can detect, anyway. It plays havoc with my spelling.
But now I think I'm starting to guess where it will crop up. Patterns are emerging.
It will never be:
At the beginning of a word
After the prefix (though the hard sign might be)
It will always be at the end of:
An infinitive ending with -т
A reflexive ending with -с
A second person verb ending with -ш
If it wants to, it can appear:
At the end of a masc/fem noun (particularly ones ending in -т -л -н -с or -р)
In the middle of a word, between two consonants (look for -т -л -н -с or -р followed by a nice hard consonant like к).
Am I on the right lines?
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It will never be:
At the beginning of a word right :lol:
After the prefix (though the hard sign might be) I think, right
It will always be at the end of:
An infinitive ending with -т right
A reflexive ending with -с right
A second person verb ending with -ш right, BUT in this case you can't hear it: "шь" is pronounced like "ш".
If it wants to, it can appear:
At the end of a masc/fem noun (particularly ones ending in -т -л -н -с or -р) At the end of a masc. it never appears (there are only few exclusion: тюль, туннель, шампунь)
In the middle of a word, between two consonants (look for -т -л -н -с or -р followed by a nice hard consonant like к).
Am I on the right lines?
And it never can appear after г, к, х.
Re: Finding the soft sign hard
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Originally Posted by rainbowworrier
I hate that soft sign. Why have a letter that doesn't have a sound?
To indicate palatalized consonant if there is no vowel after it.
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Well, no sound that my ears can detect, anyway. It plays havoc with my spelling.
It's better than 'ough' that correspond to 9 different sounds.
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Оля And it never can appear after г, к, х.
В иностранных именах/названиях бывает (foreign names):
Гья, Кья, Кьял, Хья
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[quote:2c0brxeo]Оля And it never can appear after г, к, х.
В иностранных именах/названиях бывает (foreign names):
Гья, Кья, Кьял, Хья[/quote:2c0brxeo]
Да, знаю, бывает. Ещё "кьянти", например. :)
Но таких случаев очень мало, - например, я приведенные тобой названия ни разу не слышала.
Re: Finding the soft sign hard
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Originally Posted by rainbowworrier
It will always be at the end of:
A reflexive ending with -с
Not completely. -сь is written if the preceding letter is a vowel, whereas -ся is written if the preceding letter is a consonant AND is written at the end of all reflexive participles, regardless of whether the preceding letter is a consonant or a vowel. Thus:
Боюсь
Пишется
Поднимающимся
Поднимающегося
