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    У вас есть сыру?
    [Oops -- deleted because my advice was bad -- thanks, guys!]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post
    1. У вас есть сыр? (nominative) -- "Do you have cheese?"
    2. У вас есть сыра? (partitive genitive) -- "Do you have some cheese?"
    3. У вас есть сыру? -- Same as #2, but possibly can sound more "folksy" -- "Do y'all got any cheese?"

    Therefore, in У вас есть сыру и мяса?, both nouns are genitive: "Do you have some cheese and some meat?"
    It's a pity, but that's not Russian actually, save for the first sentence.

    1. У вас есть сыр? ОК
    2. У вас есть немного сыра? (= some cheese)
    3. У вас есть сыру? incorrect (even for the rednecks)

    I think you are a bit confused because you mixed up negative and affirmative forms.

    1. У вас нет сыр? incorrect
    2. У вас нет сыра? ОК
    3. У вас нет сыру? incorrect (but can be acceptable for the rednecks)

    I'm sorry that I broke your theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Throbert McGee View Post
    2. У вас есть сыра? (partitive genitive) -- "Do you have some cheese?"
    3. У вас есть сыру? -- Same as #2, but possibly can sound more "folksy" -- "Do y'all got any cheese?"
    Nope, neither genitive nor partitive is possible here.
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