Thread: From 871,000 Rub.

Hi there,

I came across a car ad when reading the news where it said:
"от 871 000 руб."

How do I read/write that?
Without the preposition, it would be read as follows: восемьсот семьдесят одна тысяча рублей
With the preposition, my guess would be: от восьмисот семидесяти одной тысячи рублей

The reason why I'm asking is the fact that I have to deal with тысяча, which is fem. -

Am I right?
Thx in advance.

Originally Posted by Cumulus

Hi there,

I came across a car ad when reading the news where it said:
"от 871 000 руб."

How do I read/write that?
Without the preposition, it would be read as follows: восемьсот семьдесят одна тысяча рублей
With the preposition, my guess would be: от восмьисот семьидесяти одной тысячи рублей

The reason why I'm asking is the fact that I have to deal with тысяча, which is fem. -

Am I right?
Thx in advance.

You are right (it is fem so the numeral takes the same gender), but the spelling is wrong, it is

От восьмисот семидесяти одной тысячи рублей.

Thx for your prompt help. Spelling fixed.

I want to add that declension of compound numerals is complicated in Russian, and many native speakers do not bother to decline them properly. Some less-educated Russians are even unable to.

So, yes, "от восьмисот семидесяти одной тысячи рублей" is the only correct way to read this numerical expression. If it is cited in a TV announcement, they would certainly pronounce it correctly. But if you just hear this expression somewhere in the street, I guess most likely it would sound as "от восемьсот семьдесят одной тысячи рублей" (I underlined the parts which are left undeclined). Although that is considered to be grammatically wrong, a lot of people say that way.

I am not telling that foreigners should learn that way. But at least they need to be aware of that fact, I think.

Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман

I want to add that declension of compound numerals is complicated in Russian, and many native speakers do not bother to decline them properly. Some less-educated Russians are even unable to.

So, yes, "от восьмисот семидесяти одной тысячи рублей" is the only correct way to read this numerical expression. If it is cited in a TV announcement, they would certainly pronounce it correctly. But if you just hear this expression somewhere in the street, I guess most likely it would sound as "от восемьсот семьдесят одной тысячи рублей" (I underlined the parts which are left undeclined). Although that is considered to be grammatically wrong, a lot of people say that way.

I am not telling that foreigners should learn that way. But at least they need to be aware of that fact, I think.

Other variants are possible too. от восьмиста is also a frequent form.

Originally Posted by Marcus

Other variants are possible too. от восьмиста is also a frequent form.

Yeah, I'm sure that I'm more likely to hear:

от восьмиста семидясети одной тысячи рублей

than

от восемьсот семьдесят одной тысячи рублей

here

Maybe you are lucky and you have mostly communicated with well-educated people

I can hardly imagine, let's say, a workshop man, saying "от восьмиста семидясети одной тысячи рублей" with proper declension of all numeric parts.

семидесяти

Originally Posted by Lampada

семидесяти

Aha. I had a strange feeling about how I wrote that word initially

Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман

But if you just hear this expression somewhere in the street, I guess most likely it would sound as "от восемьсот семьдесят одной тысячи рублей" (I underlined the parts which are left undeclined). Although that is considered to be grammatically wrong, a lot of people say that way.

+1

Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман

Maybe you are lucky and you have mostly communicated with well-educated people
I can hardly imagine, let's say, a workshop man, saying "от восьмиста семидясети одной тысячи рублей" with proper declension of all numeric parts.

«Восьмиста» is not the proper form. It’s the form built by analogy with the oblique-case form of 100 «ста». It is also widely used among Russian speakers.

Just in case, I’ve made a tool that declines Russian numerals properly.

Originally Posted by Soft sign

«Восьмиста» is not the proper form.

You are right, it should be "восьмисот". I did not even notice the difference between the original post (with "восьмисот") and what Marcus mentioned ("восьмиста")! Shame on me. And thank you for pointing it out!

Is it so important to decline the numerals correctly to be understandable?

Originally Posted by impulse

Is it so important to decline the numerals correctly to be understandable?

Нет.