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    Ходят или Идут

    I think generally people say

    Автобусы не ходят.

    В случие односторонного движения, все равно "не ходят" или
    будет "не идут"?

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    Re: Ходят или Идут

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki
    В случие односторонного движения, все равно "не ходят" или будет "не идут"?
    One-way or two-way movement doesn't affect the choice of verb.

    I think, "ходят" is used when speaking in general or to emphasize a regularity (a repetitive action). "Идти" is often used when speaking about a particular case or to emphasize a direction.
    I must think about it, though, to tell for sure.

    Here are some examples:

    Автобусы ходят строго по расписанию.
    Сегодня автобусы не ходят - в депо забастовка.
    Автобусы ходят с шести утра до одиннадцати вечера.
    Автобусы ходят часто.

    От моего дома до школы автобус идет 15 минут.
    Посмотри, не идет ли автобус? (people are waiting for the bus)
    Подскажите, этот автобус идет до .... ?
    Нам повезло, автобус пришел сразу.

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    Re: Ходят или Идут

    Quote Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki
    В случие односторонного движения, все равно "не ходят" или будет "не идут"?
    One-way or two-way movement doesn't affect the choice of verb.
    ...
    От моего дома до школы автобус идет 15 минут.
    Посмотри, не идет ли автобус? (people are waiting for the bus)
    Подскажите, этот автобус идет до .... ?
    Нам повезло, автобус пришел сразу.
    Thank you very much for your explanation.

    How about the following positive sentences?

    ( Опять в случие односторонного движения )
    Автобусы часто ходят по этой улице.
    или
    Автобусы часто идут по этой улице.

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    Re: Ходят или Идут

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki
    Thank you very much for your explanation.

    How about the following positive sentences?

    ( Опять в случие односторонного движения )
    Автобусы часто ходят по этой улице.
    или
    Автобусы часто идут по этой улице.
    Your first sentence is fine, but the second one sounds a bit silly.

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    Think of the идти category as verbs that describe movement 1) in one direction, 2) one time. Then use the ходить category of verbs everywhere else.

    Пока - сейчас иду спать.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
    Think of the идти category as verbs that describe movement 1) in one direction, 2) one time. Then use the ходить category of verbs everywhere else.

    Пока - сейчас иду спать.
    Хорошо спали? Я попоже поиду спать. ( I will start to go to my bed room strictly in one direction in accordance with поиду!! )

    Then, in case of one way street, автобусы идут?
    I hear this sounds strange.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yury
    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
    Think of the идти category as verbs that describe movement 1) in one direction, 2) one time. Then use the ходить category of verbs everywhere else.

    Пока - сейчас иду спать.
    Хорошо спали? Я попоже пойду спать. ( I will start to go to my bed room strictly in one direction in accordance with поиду!! )

    Then, in case of one way street, автобусы идут?
    I hear this sounds strange.....
    1. Just remember the following phonetical nuance with иду (идёшь, идёт etc):
    иду - пойду, выйду, зайду, уйду etc. but приду.

    2. There is nothing to do with one-way or two-way street.

    автобусы идут means "they are moving now, at the given moment":

    Утро. Люди торопятся на работу. По улице идут автобусы.

    (It can be one-way or two-way street - no matter)

    автобусы ходят means "they go regularly, from time to time, by a schedule etc":

    По этой улице автобусы ходят редко. Buses rarely go along this street.
    Автобусы до N (place name) ходят каждые два часа. Buses to N go every two hours.

    3. I think I have to clarify the concept of "one direction, one time" regarding to идти.

    Yes, it is a correct approach, but have in mind how to apply it.

    When talking about a SINGLE subject, it's very easy:

    человек идёт - one direction, present moment

    человек ходит -
    either many directions (он ходит туда-сюда, он ходит из угла в угол etc.) - at the given time but constantly changing its direction, without a single goal.
    or regularly, many times (он каждый день ходит в магазин)

    But when talking about MULTIPLE subjects, it is not necessarily true that ALL the objects should follow the same direction (probably, that is why you asked about ONE-WAY STREET).

    No. If each of the subjects IS GOING in a single direction at the given moment, that's enough to allow us using идти.

    Люди идут на работу. - That does not necessarily imply all of them going to the SAME PLACE. It rather means each of them (separately) is going to a definite place at the given moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман
    Quote Originally Posted by Yury
    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
    Think of the идти category as verbs that describe movement 1) in one direction, 2) one time. Then use the ходить category of verbs everywhere else.

    Пока - сейчас иду спать.
    Хорошо спали? Я попоже пойду спать. ( I will start to go to my bed room strictly in one direction in accordance with поиду!! )

    Then, in case of one way street, автобусы идут?
    I hear this sounds strange.....
    1. Just remember the following phonetical nuance with иду (идёшь, идёт etc):
    иду - пойду, выйду, зайду, уйду etc. but приду.

    2. There is nothing to do with one-way or two-way street.

    автобусы идут means "they are moving now, at the given moment":

    Утро. Люди торопятся на работу. По улице идут автобусы.

    (It can be one-way or two-way street - no matter)

    автобусы ходят means "they go regularly, from time to time, by a schedule etc":

    По этой улице автобусы ходят редко. Buses rarely go along this street.
    Автобусы до N (place name) ходят каждые два часа. Buses to N go every two hours.

    3. I think I have to clarify the concept of "one direction, one time" regarding to идти.

    Yes, it is a correct approach, but have in mind how to apply it.

    When talking about a SINGLE subject, it's very easy:

    человек идёт - one direction, present moment

    человек ходит -
    either many directions (он ходит туда-сюда, он ходит из угла в угол etc.) - at the given time but constantly changing its direction, without a single goal.
    or regularly, many times (он каждый день ходит в магазин)

    But when talking about MULTIPLE subjects, it is not necessarily true that ALL the objects should follow the same direction (probably, that is why you asked about ONE-WAY STREET).

    No. If each of the subjects IS GOING in a single direction at the given moment, that's enough to allow us using идти.

    Люди идут на работу. - That does not necessarily imply all of them going to the SAME PLACE. It rather means each of them (separately) is going to a definite place at the given moment.

    Боб,

    Thank you so much for your wonderful explanation and corection
    of пойду. Very helpful.

    Yuki

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yury

    Боб,

    Thank you so much for your wonderful explanation and corection
    of пойду. Very helpful.

    Yuki
    Dou itashimashi te! Nihon no kata desu ne?

    BTW, I missed one more mistake: not попоже but попозже

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    Quote Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман
    Quote Originally Posted by Yury

    Боб,

    Thank you so much for your wonderful explanation and correction
    of пойду. Very helpful.

    Yuki
    Dou itashimashi te! Nihon no kata desu ne?

    BTW, I missed one more mistake: not попоже but попозже [/quote

    ありがとうございました!  Nihongo mo odekini narimasuka?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман
    Nihongo wo benkyou shimasu. Sukoshi hanasemasu yo.

    Nihongo wa muzukashikute totemo omoshiroi desu!

    Rosiago de kaita nihongono kyookasho wa dorega yoidesuka?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yury
    Quote Originally Posted by Боб Уайтман
    Nihongo wo benkyou shimasu. Sukoshi hanasemasu yo.

    Nihongo wa muzukashikute totemo omoshiroi desu!

    Rosiago de kaita nihongono kyookasho wa dorega yoidesuka?
    Watashi wa Lavrentiev no kyookasho wo tsukaimashi ta. Kare wa waro jiten mo kakimashi ta.

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    [quote=Боб Уайтман]
    Quote Originally Posted by Yury
    Quote Originally Posted by "Боб Уайтман":2h8o6ort
    Nihongo wo benkyou shimasu. Sukoshi hanasemasu yo.

    Nihongo wa muzukashikute totemo omoshiroi desu!

    Rosiago de kaita nihongono kyookasho wa dorega yoidesuka?
    Watashi wa Lavrentiev no kyookasho wo tsukaimashi ta. Kare wa waro jiten mo kakimashi ta.[/quote:2h8o6ort]

    Arigatoo gozaimasu. Zuibun maedesuga Lavrentiev sanno mussukosan
    no Lavrentiev san to nihon de hanashita kotoga arimashita.

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