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    ..учить

    Can someone help me with the following question? I would appreciate if you could translate the full sentence.


    За какой срок можно ____ ребенка кататься на коньках?

    A) выучить В) научить C) приучить D) проучить Е) изучить

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    Научить.
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    b)
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    Re: ..учить

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilkay
    Can someone help me with the following question? I would appreciate if you could translate the full sentence.


    За какой срок можно ____ ребенка кататься на коньках?

    A) выучить В) научить C) приучить D) проучить Е) изучить
    The most common (and correct) answer is B while A can be used too.

    С is applicable only if the kid doesn't like skating but you want him to skate anyway.
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    translation

    The translation of this sentence (За какой срок можно научить ребенка кататься на коньках?) must be something like this:

    How long could it take to teach a child to skate?

    Am I right?

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    yes, you understood right
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    How long does it take to teach a child to skate?

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    можно ~ could

    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
    How long does it take to teach a child to skate?
    I think "could" is more appropriate for the translation, since the original sentence contains "можно".

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    Re: можно ~ could

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilkay
    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
    How long does it take to teach a child to skate?
    I think "could" is more appropriate for the translation, since the original sentence contains "можно".
    I agree with chaika.
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    Re: можно ~ could

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilkay
    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
    How long does it take to teach a child to skate?
    I think "could" is more appropriate for the translation, since the original sentence contains "можно".
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    You can't simply substitute 'does' for 'could' in that sentence, as Chaika said. If you want to use "could", you'd have to change the structure of the sentence to something like

    "How quickly could you teach a child to skate?"

    which is not the same question as

    "How long does it take to teach a child to skate?"

    The first asks how long it would take under a hypothetical ideal set of circumstances, the second asks how long it generally takes under normal circumstances.

    My Russian isn't good enough to tell whether the sentence "За какой срок можно научить ребенка кататься на коньках?" contains any such distinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotcher
    You can't simply substitute 'does' for 'could' in that sentence, as Chaika said. If you want to use "could", you'd have to change the structure of the sentence to something like

    "How quickly could you teach a child to skate?"
    Насколько быстро вы сможете научить ребёнка кататься на коньках?

    This is a concrete question. It asks how quickly could you (personally) teach a (maybe even the) child to skate.

    Quote Originally Posted by scotcher
    which is not the same question as

    "How long does it take to teach a child to skate?"
    Сколько займёт времени научить ребёнка кататься на коньках

    This is a general question. It asks generally, not personally, i.e. any person could do teaching (it may as well be you yourself) and it doesn't matter because it just asks for some most general timeframe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil
    Насколько быстро вы сможете научить ребёнка кататься на коньках?

    Сколько займёт времени научить ребёнка кататься на коньках
    Right, so to which sentence is "За какой срок можно научить ребенка кататься на коньках?" closer in meaning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotcher
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil
    Насколько быстро вы сможете научить ребёнка кататься на коньках?

    Сколько займёт времени научить ребёнка кататься на коньках
    Right, so to which sentence is "За какой срок можно научить ребенка кататься на коньках?" closer in meaning?
    How long does it take...

    За какой срок можно (кому угодно) научить ребенка (любого ребёнка) кататься на коньках?

    Можно and could here are not related whatsoever.
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    Ta.

    Just wanted to be sure that I was understanding Chaika's comment correctly.

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    Re: ..учить

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilkay
    Can someone help me with the following question? I would appreciate if you could translate the full sentence.


    За какой срок можно ____ ребенка кататься на коньках?

    A) выучить В) научить C) приучить D) проучить Е) изучить
    The answer is B.
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    Давайте я ещё раз скажу, а то я не говорил.

    Правильный ответ В.
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    Нет, вы все категорически не правы. Нужный ответ — В!
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    Я бы не стал ничего утверждать, если бы ни был так уверен в ответе. Без сомнения В. И спорить тут бесполезно!
    Я так думаю.

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    Ну давайте тогда ещё привлечём все возможные математические выкладки, чтобы доказывать очевидное!.. И после всего вы ешщё будете оспаривать мой ответ, что это не В.
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