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Thread: уже as in Владивосток уже 12 октября

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    уже as in Владивосток уже 12 октября

    I read from a Russian article >here<:
    Владивосток уже 12 октября распахнет свои двери в качестве открытого порта.

    I roughly understand it as:
    Vladivostok has already on 12 October will open its doors as an open port.


    But уже here meaning "already" doesn't feel right, it hasn't happened yet! It is future here.
    How shall I understand уже here?

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    Уже here means that a decision was already made. It is a certain thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    Уже here means that a decision was already made. It is a certain thing.
    Any English equivilent for it? Because I can't find one from the dictionaries available to me.
    And which one here ГРАМОТА.РУ do you think is the related meaning?
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    By the way. I have to clarify. Уже 12 сентября - уже here more relates to the date.
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    It seems to me that уже can often be translated as at this time or at that time. Always translating уже as already sounds awkward in English.
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    к тому времени уже = by then already

    Вот первое, что нагуглилось с уже буду и уже примет (т.е. уже перед глаголом в будущем времени):

    «Рассчитываю, что к старту сезона уже буду полностью готов».

    "
    Завтра уже буду дома и планирую начать строить..."

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    Пройдёт много лет, я уже буду епископом."

    "Мама, а я завтра уже буду большим?"

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    Планируется, что к сентябрю ...центр уже примет
    первых рожениц."



    Может, кто-нибудь уже примет меры!!!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    Уже here means that a decision was already made. It is a certain thing.
    I'd say уже means that something is about to happen very soon, no need to wait for long.

    Not knowing English I believe that I've found the correct translation. Look at this:
    iPhone 6s Release Date: International launch might be set for Oct. 2 | BGR
    This "the new phones will arrive as soon as October 2nd in the Netherlands" sounds to me as "уже 2 октября..."
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    "Уже" can be interpreted as "action is ready at pointed moment". If you talk about past or present, you mean "already". If you talk about future, you mean "will be ready at...". So, "as soon as" is accurate enough.
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