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    и те и те, и то и то, и то и другое,оба...

    и те и те both (for 2 groups of things/people, colloquial)
    и то и то both (for 2 things, colloquial)
    и тот и тот both (for 2 people, colloquial)
    и то и другое same as all above?

    оба both (for 2 things/people, same as и тот и тот but formal/written, not colloquial)

    Is this right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grafrich View Post
    и тот и тот both (for 2 people, colloquial)
    и тот и тот — for 2 men
    и та и та — for 2 women

    и тот и та / и та и тот for a man and a woman are possible but rare and clumsy. It’s better to use оба in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by grafrich View Post
    и то и другое same as all above?
    The same number-gender distinction works here:
    и те и другие both (for 2 groups of things/people, colloquial)
    и то и другое both (for 2 things, colloquial)
    и тот и другой both (for 2 men, colloquial)
    и та и другая both (for 2 women, colloquial)


    Quote Originally Posted by grafrich View Post
    оба both (for 2 things/people, same as и тот и тот but formal/written, not colloquial)
    оба — for 2 men or for a men and a woman
    обе — for two women
    оба / обе is not limited to formal speech. It is used in colloquial speech too.
    Please correct my English

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    So оба is always going to be easier to use; just doesn't apply to 2 collections/groups of things/people, which is where и те и те could be used?

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