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    Вот так.....??

    I need help to explain these expression that I keep seeing:


    Вот так, так!
    Вот так!
    Вот так вот!
    Так-то вот!


    And any other variations of this....

    I can't find any information about it that I can understand.

    What does it mean and how / when is it used?

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    Re: Вот так.....??

    To name a few.
    Вот так, так! Oh, boy! Oh, my!
    Вот так! That’s more or less how it all happened!
    Вот так вот! = Так-то вот! That’s the way the cookie crumbles! Live and learn!

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    Re: Вот так.....??

    Great explanation!
    Now it makes sense.
    Thank you!

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    Re: Вот так.....??

    Maybe it's not 100% related to the question, but I guess "вот" in Russian works pretty much like "well" in English. You can put it everywhere. It won't change anything. Whenever I can't find my words, I just mumble one of these filler words, вот, так, значит, знаете, etc. Even it kinda sounds cool.
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    Re: Вот так.....??

    Good tip, thanks Misha!

    Are there any more "вот" expressions that are good to know?

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    Re: Вот так.....??

    I once compiled a list from dictionary entries:

    * вот как! = don't you say! Also: That's how it is!
    * вот как … = and thus, that's how
    * вот что! = don't you say!
    * вот и всё = that's all
    * вот-вот = any moment now, soon, in a minute; when used on it's own: exactly!
    * (а) вот ещё! = No way! But also: Indeed! What else? What's next?
    * так вот, … = Be that as it may
    * вот так = that's it
    * так-то вот! = exactly that way, just like that (agreement)
    * вот так …! = (disapproving) here you have …, what a …
    * вот тебе (и) на! = same as вот так-так!
    * вот именно! = exactly, that's it
    * вот в чём … = that is what ...
    * вот это да! = That's it!
    * вот и я! = here I am!
    * вот тебе! = there you have it!
    * вот тебе (и) раз = now you've done it, serves you right, what a mess
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    Re: Вот так.....??

    В. Высoцкий

    Ну вот, исчезла дрожь в руках,
    Теперь — наверх!
    Ну вот, свалился в пропасть страх
    Навек, навек.
    Для остановки нет причин —
    Иду, скользя...
    И в мире нет таких вершин,
    Что взять нельзя!


    ABBYY Lingvo:
    ну вот — 1) there you are 2) now what's this? 3) as I was saying
    В основном безвреден.

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    Re: Вот так.....??

    Quote Originally Posted by Vadim Mo
    В. Высoцкий

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    Re: Вот так.....??

    Quote Originally Posted by bitpicker
    * так-то вот! = exactly that way, just like that (agreement)
    'Так-то вот!" seems to be equal to "that's that":

    Ты плохо себя вёл, поэтому папа не купит тебе телевизор, так-то вот!
    Налево пойдёшь - коня потеряешь, направо пойдёшь - сам голову сложишь.
    Прямой путь не предлагать!

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    Re: Вот так.....??

    Super helpful! thanks for the list, Robin!

    Loved the Vysotsky song! Thanks Vadim and Lampada!

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    It's funny how much you can learn from music without even know that you are learning. I guess many here learnt a lot of English that way!

    I listened to a lot of Russian rock around 1990 or so, even though I didn't understand it (it was considered pretty cool by teens in Stockholm at the time...). A lot of phrases stuck on my mind from songs I heard many times, and now it's helping me to learn a few things faster.


    Quote Originally Posted by Полуношник
    Ты плохо себя вёл, поэтому папа не купит тебе телевизор, так-то вот!
    "Ты плохо себя вёл" = "you've been very naughty" [to a child] ??

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    Re: Вот так.....??

    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna
    "Ты плохо себя вёл" = "you've been very naughty" [to a child] ??
    Yes.
    Налево пойдёшь - коня потеряешь, направо пойдёшь - сам голову сложишь.
    Прямой путь не предлагать!

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    Re: Вот так.....??

    How about the example from Kin Dza Dza, where one of the 'aliens' is showing how to "koo", he says each time 'Вот так' to mean "like this".

    I can't really comment on the other usages here but I've observed that Вот is a big filler word in conversational Russian. Like "well..." or even "um...".
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