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    аспект в глаголе

    As the headline says.

    I just wondering about it, i couldn't find it on google.com about russian aspekts.

    I really wanna know the different between.


    - раз
    - про
    - в

    This words/letters i wrote i have many times with a normal verb.

    Like увидеть but what would that mean?



    I hope that someone here got a link about this, it would help me a lot.

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    aspect is (normally) formed by adding prefixes like the ones you listed.
    there are 2 aspects:
    imperfective and perfective.

    as a very general rule perfective is used to make the future tense of a verb or to denote a fully completed action in the past.
    the imperfective is used in present tense and in the past shows process of action.
    aspect is the thing that takes longest to understand and it gets real nasty
    there's bound to lots of info here about it. just wait for someone to link you to a good, past post
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    The general and normal meaning of the prefixes varies and it is sometimes to hard to guess what it does to the word (expect make it perfect tense).

    Here is the gist of the prefixes. A stretch of imagination is needed sometimes.

    у - a general sense of "away". улетать - fly away, уходить - go away, убегать - run away/escape

    раз - a general sense of "becoming smaller by going in different directions" разделить - share, развеять - disperse, разлюбить - fall out of love

    про - a general sense of "completion, thoroughness", прочитать - read completely, произносить - pronounce

    в - a general sense of "in" входить - to go in, впустить - to admit, влюбить - to fall in love/

    Watch out for the в prefixes! A word with в in front doesn't mean it is prefixed! вернуть - to return
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    It should be pointed out though, that whilst prefixes can add an extra shade of meaning, most semantically neutral perfective verbs are also created with one of the same prefixes.

    So, sometimes the prefix means something, at other times it is simply an indication that the verb is perfective.

    The example you gave, увидеть, is one such verb. увидеть is simply the perfective form of видеть, the у just makes the imperfective verb perfective.

    There is, if I remember correctly, some sort of vague logic to the way certain specific prefixes form neutral perfectives with semantically-related groups of imperfectives, but add an extra shade of meaning when prefixed to other groups of imperfectives, but I don't know the subject well enough to explain it, you'll need a decent grammar reference for that.

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    Could you please occasionally correct my stupid errors!
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    Because none of those links really answer the question mekko asked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotcher
    Because none of those links really answer the question mekko asked?
    Mekko's question was refered to verbal aspect and all these links are dedicated to this theme.

    But I think, that prefixes "у, раз, про, в, etc" have nothing common with verbal aspect, because they are used in both ones. E.g. "уносил - унёс", "разносил - разнёс", "проносил - пронёс", "вносил - внёс" etc. To clear this thing you have better to refer to chapter "Russian verbal prefixes"

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category: ... l_prefixes
    http://www.alphadictionary.com/rusgrammar/wfverb0.html
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    My request was great!

    с рожеством

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    Quote Originally Posted by mekko
    с рождеством
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    с Рождеством

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    С Рождеством.
    -- Да? Коту Ваське, бл##?
    -- Нет, Я кот Васька :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent Tailors
    С Рождеством!
    Please, correct my mistakes, except for the cases I misspell something on purpose!

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