Thread: translation help

I couldn't translate this as there are many things i don't know.I hope someone help me out.Tnx in advance.



Горе от ума
Комедия в четырех действиях, в стихах
Действующие лица:

Павел Афанасьевич Фамусов, управляющий в казенном месте.
Софья Павловна, его дочь.
Лизанька, служанка.
Алексей Степанович Молчалин, секретарь Фамусова, живущий у него в доме.
Александр Андреевич Чацкий.
Полковник Скалозуб, Сергей Сергеевич.
Наталья Дмитриевна, молодая дама

Платон Михайлович, муж ее


Князь Тугоуховский и Княгиня, жена его, с шестью дочерями.
Графиня бабушка
Графиня внучка

Антон Антонович Загорецкий.
Старуха Хлёстова, свояченица Фамусова.
г. N*.
г. D*.
Репетилов.
Петрушка и несколько говорящих слуг.
Множество гостей всякого разбора и их лакеев при разъезде.
Официанты Фамусова.
Действие в Москве, в доме Фамусова.

Действие первое
Явление 1
Гостиная, в ней большие часы, справа дверь в спальню Софии, откудова слышно фортопияно с флейтою, которые потом умолкают. Лизанька среди комнаты спит, свесившись с кресел. Утро, чуть день брезжится.

Лизанька
(вдруг просыпается, встает с кресел, оглядывается)
Светает!.. Ах! как скоро ночь минула!
Вчера просилась спать — отказ.
«Ждем друга». — Нужен глаз да глаз,
Не спи, покудова не скатишься со стула.
Теперь вот только что вздремнула,
Уж день!.. сказать им... (Стучится к Софии.)
Господа,
Эй! Софья Павловна, беда.
Зашла беседа ваша за

I think you are aiming too low. You should start translating War and Peace. I am sure everybody would gladly help you out if you posted it here.

Look maybe some of us here don't mind helping you out time to time but come on man do your own homework by yourself!

Tell you what. I will translate the first line. Maybe if you're lucky 120 other people won't mind in translating a line each but don't count on it. EVEN friendly Friendy won't help you forever, will you Friendy?

Grief from the mind...

Originally Posted by uno

Look maybe some of us here don't mind helping you out time to time but come on man do your own homework by yourself!

Tell you what. I will translate the first line. Maybe if you're lucky 120 other people won't mind in translating a line each but don't count on it. EVEN Friendly won't help you forever, will you friendly?

Grief from the mind...

You fell for Friendy's trick and mispelled her name!

Second line: A comedy in 4 parts in verses

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Originally Posted by uno

Look maybe some of us here don't mind helping you out time to time but come on man do your own homework by yourself!

Tell you what. I will translate the first line. Maybe if you're lucky 120 other people won't mind in translating a line each but don't count on it. EVEN Friendy won't help you forever, will you friendy?

Grief from the mind...

You fell for Friendy's trick and mispelled her name!

Second line: A comedy in 4 parts in verses

Uhmmm read it again no I didn't...

Psst. I didn't edit it either... Sorry Friendy!

WTF!?!? Dude: this has been translated MANY times. The obvious solution here is find a copy of the play in a BOOK or ONLINE in English/Turkish/whatever. It's even broken down into obvious sections, since it's a play. Sweet merciful crap, that's pathetic. With that being said, would some one mind posting their own personal translation of "Преступление и Наказание" -- I don't like the font of the copy in my library!

Originally Posted by Barmaley

WTF!?!? Dude: this has been translated MANY times. The obvious solution here is find a copy of the play in a BOOK or ONLINE in English/Turkish/whatever. It's even broken down into obvious sections, since it's a play. Sweet merciful cr@p, that's pathetic. With that being said, would some one mind posting their own personal translation of "Преступление и Наказание" -- I don't like the font of the copy in my library!

LO FREAKIN L

Originally Posted by Орчун

IГоре от ума
Комедия в четырех действиях, в стихах
Действующие лица:

Павел Афанасьевич Фамусов, управляющий в казенном месте.
Софья Павловна, его дочь.
Лизанька, служанка.
Алексей Степанович Молчалин, секретарь Фамусова, живущий у него в доме.
Александр Андреевич Чацкий.
Полковник Скалозуб, Сергей Сергеевич.
Наталья Дмитриевна, молодая дама

Платон Михайлович, муж ее

Grief from the mind
Comedy in four parts, in verses
Characters:

Paul Afanasjevich Famusov managing in state place.
Sofia Pavlovna, his daughter.
Lizanka, the servant.
Alexey Stepanovich Molchalin, secretary Famusova living with him in the house.
Alexander Andreevich Chatsky.
Colonel Skalozub, Sergey Sergeevich.
Natalia Dmitrievna, young lady

Platon Mihajlovich, her husband

This play's is generally translated into English as"Woe From Wit"
Here's an English translation
http://spintongues.msk.ru/griboyedov.htm

I really don't think you are any where near good enough at Russian to be attempting this. You have even put names in that list.

I mean you ask what Лиза means. If you notice it is CAPITALISED in the text, and therefore is a name. Liza, that's what it means.

г. N*.
г. D*.

г. - Город

N* - this was done alot at the time, they like only give the initial of the place, or person's names.
e.g. in Pushkin's Pikovaya dama, he only refers to the Countess by her initial, I think.

rofl i'd just copied&pasted it.Btw my russian classes are so hard that i can't find time to do those simple homeworks.anyway *uck it...

Originally Posted by TATY

I really don't think you are any where near good enough at Russian to be attempting this. You have even put names in that list.

I mean you ask what Лиза means. If you notice it is CAPITALISED in the text, and therefore is a name. Liza, that's what it means.

Right. That's why we were giving him a hard time. He literally just asked you translate an entire act from a play. Ну, что такой "Лиза." ПОЖАЛУЙСТА, скажите мне!

N* - this was done alot at the time, they like only give the initial of the place, or person's names.
e.g. in Pushkin's Pikovaya dama, he only refers to the Countess by her initial, I think.

Yeah, he did it in "Idiot" and "The Shot," too. Was this isolated to Pushkin, though?

Originally Posted by Barmaley

Originally Posted by TATY

I really don't think you are any where near good enough at Russian to be attempting this. You have even put names in that list.

I mean you ask what Лиза means. If you notice it is CAPITALISED in the text, and therefore is a name. Liza, that's what it means.

Right. That's why we were giving him a hard time. He literally just asked you translate an entire act from a play. Ну, что такой "Лиза." ПОЖАЛУЙСТА, скажите мне!

N* - this was done alot at the time, they like only give the initial of the place, or person's names.
e.g. in Pushkin's Pikovaya dama, he only refers to the Countess by her initial, I think.

Yeah, he did it in "Idiot" and "The Shot," too. Was this isolated to Pushkin, though?

Obviously not, because War and Peace is by Tolstoy. I think I saw it in Gogol' as well, although I think the footnote said the censors did it in Nos. I think maybe authors at the time did it.

Unlikely that was censors who cuted the full manes and turned it in N*** and D***. LOTS of Russian authors did that - you mentioned right - Pushkin and Gogol did it everytime. They did it mainly because it wasn't so important to remark where or who it was actually. OR they did that because the situation described in their story was typical for Russia of those times. The other side of this medal was the fact that all writers made incredibly funny, curious and so called 'speaking' names and second names for the characters. Just one such name make you laughing at the character since the first line where he is being described.
Lots of characters named in books by initials actually hinted or obviously pictured the real famous persons who lived in the same time with the author. So to make everyone know but defend yourself you had to write the inicials instead of the real names.

It seems to me that Charles Dickens and Jane Austen did that as well in their books. So that's not only Russian writing tradition.

Originally Posted by Leof

Unlikely that was censors who cuted the full manes and turned it in N*** and D***. LOTS of Russian authors did that - you mentioned right - Pushkin and Gogol did it everytime. They did it mainly because it wasn't so important to remark where or who it was actually. OR they did that because the situation described in their story was typical for Russia of those times. The other side of this medal was the fact that all writers made incredibly funny, curious and so called 'speaking' names and second names for the characters. Just one such name make you laughing at the character since the first line where he is being described.
Lots of characters named in books by initials actually hinted or obviously pictured the real famous persons who lived in the same time with the author. So to make everyone know but defend yourself you had to write the inicials instead of the real names.

It seems to me that Charles Dickens and Jane Austen did that as well in their books. So that's not only Russian writing tradition.

I didn't say the censors did it for Toltsoy.
I remember it know I think. In Nos, Kovalyov goes to the Kazan' Cathedral in Petersburg. Gogol' originally wrote the cathedral's name, but the censors removed the name since it could be seen as mocking religion.

TATY Of course I didn't mean you did say that about Tolstoy - I understood you well!

Originally Posted by Barmaley

Yeah, he did it in "Idiot" and "The Shot," too. Was this isolated to Pushkin, though?

Now now, Barmaley, "the Idiot" was written by Dostoevskiy. Dostoevskiy was also fond of blanking out names. Take for example Crime and Punishment, all the bridge names are blanked out!!!

Good note on the names though, I am reading мертвые души and some of the names are hilarious!!!

Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie

Originally Posted by Barmaley

Yeah, he did it in "Idiot" and "The Shot," too. Was this isolated to Pushkin, though?

Now now, Barmaley, "the Idiot" was written by Dostoevskiy. Dostoevskiy was also fond of blanking out names. Take for example Crime and Punishment, all the bridge names are blanked out!!!

Good note on the names though, I am reading мертвые души and some of the names are hilarious!!!

Wow. That was bad. Very bad. Especially since that book is sitting literally three feet from me...lol