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    This bookelet is somewhat suspicious to me. I'm not sure if it is real.

    First, Бреус Иван Гаврилович is not in the list of the recipients of the Order of Lenin. And there were not too many recipients since that was the highest order of the Soviet Union in that time. The name of all recipients are known.

    According to:

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...D1%87#mw-pages


    There are only two Breus recipients of the Order of Lenin:




    Second, the Order of Lenin recipient number 240115 is not in the list according to PHALERAE: Орден Ленина №№ 200.000 - 299.999

    238132 Плотников Василий Васильевич Указ ПВС СССР от 1 августа 1953 г. Г № 768068 26 октября 1953 г.
    239557 Петровский Иван Георгиевич Академик Книга В.Дурова
    240889 Мавромати (Спасова) Екатерина Ивановна Указ ПВС СССР от 17 сентября 1953 г. Г № 836200
    241007 Пестов Николай Евграфович Указ Президиума Верховного Совета СССР от 27 октября 1953 года Профессор и доктор химических наук Московского инженерно-экономического института.
    243557 Васильченко Иван Иванович

    And third, a person with that name was lost in 1941:

    ОБД Мемориал

    Информация из донесения о безвозвратных потерях
    Фамилия Бреус
    Имя Иван
    Отчество Гаврилович
    Дата рождения/Возраст __.__.1916
    Место рождения Черниговская обл., Кобровеческий р-н, с. Хамовичи
    Дата и место призыва __.__.1937
    Последнее место службы Западный фронт 57 АП 57 ТД
    Воинское звание воентехник 2 ранга
    Причина выбытия пропал без вести
    Дата выбытия между __.10.1941 и __.12.1941
    I guess, make your own conclusions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    This bookelet is somewhat suspicious to me. I'm not sure if it is real.

    First, Бреус Иван Гаврилович is not in the list of the recipients of the Order of Lenin. And there were not too many recipients since that was the highest order of the Soviet Union in that time. The name of all recipients are known.
    There is also no record of Бреус Иван Гаврилович as a recipient of the Order of the Red Banner
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    Thanks for the translations, I appreciate it very much.

    Concerning this number not being listed on the pages cited, I obtained this set 15 years ago from a very, very reputable source (not simply an individual selling on ebay, or the like), and I have seen many Orders of Lenin over the years, including some fakes. I have no doubt all the parts of this set are completely genuine. I've run about a dozen recipient names & medal numbers through the pages mentioned, some listed by dealers, some in auctions, and even one which is in the possession of the grandson of the original recipient, and NONE of them are on either site. The reliability of information found in unofficial blogs and wiki pages varies considerably, and needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

    Thanks again.

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