Thread: sexy

Well they were some goddamn well-traveled russian-uzbeks who went back to grandma's house (Voronezh) all the time as well as Moscow, Poland, Bulgaria, spent months (literally the would just leave for months) to go enjoy lake-mountain resorts, and her dad flew around the world (China, United States, and everywhere in between) because he was a pilot. She isn't russian? please... she doesn't have the slanted eyes like the rest of the uzbek population, her town had a red square and a may day parade, and she doesn't speak a lick of uzbek, so as far as I'm concerned, she was a colonist of the motherland!!

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

Im sure that doesnt make sense to you, so lets see. A grandma moves to america from england, The kids speak english, are from british decent and sure, have big boobs. Does that make them english?

Actually it does. The children would be dual citizens. My mother is an irish citizen which made me a dual citizen (irish & american) even though I was born v Amerikye.

Dogboy, what if you're born someplace and then you move to another place? Like me, I'm from Ukraine but now I live in USA. Am I a Ukrainian living in the USA? I am a little confused by what you mean. Maybe I do not fully understand. Are you saying where you're born is your nationality? I don't get it.

My friends and I that are from countries near Russia(Moldova, Ukraine(me), Kazakhstan, Lithuania) just say we're Russian. Because some people have never heard of Kazakhstan or Moldova(adleast where we live) so we say that just to make it less complicated.

Nationality are only illusions of mutal similarities...

Originally Posted by Евгения Белякова

Dogboy, what if you're born someplace and then you move to another place? Like me, I'm from Ukraine but now I live in USA. Am I a Ukrainian living in the USA? I am a little confused by what you mean. Maybe I do not fully understand. Are you saying where you're born is your nationality? I don't get it.

My friends and I that are from countries near Russia(Moldova, Ukraine(me), Kazakhstan, Lithuania) just say we're Russian. Because some people have never heard of Kazakhstan or Moldova(adleast where we live) so we say that just to make it less complicated.

If you were born in Ukraine and are of Ukrainian decent then you are Ukrainian, no matter if you live in Antarctica, or America, wherever.

Just because she was born in uzbekistan and doesnt speak uzbek and then traveled, doesn't make her non uzbek. I was born in america and i dont speak any indian languages, what does speaking the language have to do with anything.

And dogboy, what if you were born in Hawaii? Would that make you Hawaiin or white? I assume you're of caucasian stock, so does being born in Hawaii make you Hawaiin? You don't speak Hawaiin, don't look Hawaiin, you only associate with other whites, and travel to your cultural homeland many times per year.

For a russian example, look at the Jewish Autonomous Oblast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast . If you are born there does that make you jewish? Obviously not, and especially since russians are 89.9% of the people living there, jews being 1.2%.

Nationality is who you are and what you make of it. Sure, being born has a factor in your nationality, but so does your ethnicity, language, history, and culture. I'd say being born in a country whose capital was Moscow, being ethinically russian, speaking russian, visiting the cultural homeland where your family comes from, and still keeping your russian culture makes you russian.

She is russian. Stop being a lil bitch (and I mean that in the nicest way possible)

Hawaii isnt a country. Ur logic makes about as much sense as saying "I was born in Las Vages so i am a gambler." If you are born in hawaii you're american, because hawaii is a state wich is a member of a union which makes up the united states of america.

Uzbekistan is not and never was a part of russia. It is its own country, that was in a union with other countries to make up the union of socialist republics. She was born a uzbek, she'll die a uzbek.

I could move to Australia tomorrow, get a cool accent and live my life unassuming as ever, but i'd still be an american.

At first i was just joking, i dont really care where your internet girlfriend is from, how how big the girls boobs were in the pictures she sent you, but i guess i pushed ur buttons so much u were like AHHH, and it was pretty funny.

If you wanna push buttons I can come over to your place right now, get you undressed, climb in bed, get under the covers... whatever you want, babe

Originally Posted by TheMoonMonst3r

If you wanna push buttons I can come over to your place right now, get you undressed, climb in bed, get under the covers... whatever you want, babe

I'll take you up on that offer.

Originally Posted by TheMoonMonst3r

If you wanna push buttons I can come over to your place right now, get you undressed, climb in bed, get under the covers... whatever you want, babe

I'll take you up on that offer.

I think what dogboy is trying to say is that anyone can say they are somthing that they are not. Like I could say I am European, b/c my ancestry is European, but I am not...I am American because I was born and raised here, culturally I am American, and everything else about me is American. So since Moonstar's girlfriend is from Uzbek, she cannot say she is Russian just because she is of Russian ancestry. That would be like me saying I am European. However, she may tell people she is Russian, and Moonstar may consider her Russian, b/c it is a culture that most people are more easily familiar with, it is a culture she identifies herself with, and since she is of that ancestry anyways, she just calls herself Russian.

Originally Posted by russkayalove

I think what dogboy is trying to say is that anyone can say they are somthing that they are not.

I think he is saying that you are from where ever you were hatched, no matter where your parents were from or you live now.

I think Dogboy is just trying to piss off the Moon Monster. And he did a rather good job of it, I think.

Originally Posted by Pravit

I think Dogboy is just trying to piss off the Moon Monster. And he did a rather good job of it, I think.

ROOOOOOOOAAAAAAAARRR!!!!! MOONMONSTER IS PISSED!!!!

You know, in Russian culture every nationality ("национальность" = ethnic group, not the country where you live) considered to be like Jews. If Jews go to Britain or to America, they remain Jews, as well as when they come to Israel. So are Russians, Uzbeks (ethnically very different from Russians), Kazakhs, Tatars and so on. The confusion comes from the European and (rather) American understanding what is "nationality".

So if definitely Slavic people have lived all their life in Kazakhstan, and even if their grandparents lived there and grandgrandparents came there in the end of 19 c., they, nevertheless, remain Russians, because they are not like Cenrtral Asia mongoloids, and speak Russian, because no one cared to study "ethnic" languages in Soviet times. And Kazakhstan appered as a "state" on the maps only less than 15 years ago. And imagine, when they come to America, they suddenly find out that they are "Kazakhs" now....

In Britain:
Nationality = Where you were born
Ethnicity = Where your family originated, what you are by blood.

In the Soviet Passport, where it said "Nationality", it was more what a persons ethnic origin was, not simply in which part of the Soyuz they were born.

Propp is right, Russian is a race and nationality. But, isn't it more correct to refer to the race as "slavic". Because u meet people from all over eastern europe like poland, bulgaria, slavakia, etc... and they all look 'russian' but thats just because they are slavic.

So maybe his girlfriend is ethnically russian, but she's still not russian, she's slavic.

Its like all the kids here from ukraine, they call themselves russian cuz they look like it, but then u say 'R u russian' and they be like NO WE ARE UKRAINIAN so then u get a girlfriend from ukraine who is ethnically slavically russian so u call her russian but shes liek IM UKRAINIAN.

Thats why i started in the first place i guess moon monster saw the funny side of it, so all is well that ends well.

In Britain:
Nationality = Where you were born
Ethnicity = Where your family originated, what you are by blood.

In Merriam Webster:
Nationality- membership in a particular nation; an ethnic group within a larger unit (as a nation)
Ethnic- of or relating to races or large groups of people classed according to common traits and customs.

Originally Posted by russkayalove

In Britain:
Nationality = Where you were born
Ethnicity = Where your family originated, what you are by blood.

In Merriam Webster:
Nationality- membership in a particular nation; an ethnic group within a larger unit (as a nation)
Ethnic- of or relating to races or large groups of people classed according to common traits and customs.

Yeah, it's all right, but I'm sure a Russian girl from Uzbekistan will be greatly insulted if you call her "Uzbek".

Whats wrong with being an Uzbek?