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    Please can you help to translate

    Hello,

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    A friend has just been told of the arrival of a new grand-child and would like to have the name tattooed in Russian.
    Can you translate "Ellie" please.

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    Thank you so very much for your help.

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    I seem to constantly transliterate stuff wrong, so could someone please verify I'm right this time! (Please say yes)
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    You are right this time, Darobat! Congratulations!
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    Horray! I still can't figure out why "Jack" is transliterated as "Джек"...
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    How would you like it to be translitarated? As Джэк?
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    I would have said Джак. I guess I can kinda see why.
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    How do you pronounce the name 'Jack' in English? As far as I'm aware it is pronounced as ДжЭк. Same as in Russian, just with an English accent. Why do you think it's pronounced as Джэк as in Juck?
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    I guess I want to use an 'a', simply because it's spelt with one in English.
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    Remember that in Russian the name 'Jack' is pronounced the same way as in English. Jack = Джэк. But it's not true of all words. For example, MacDonald's is pronounced as Макдонал(ь)дс in Russian. The letter 'ь' is in brackets because some prounounce it while others prefer to omit it.
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    Darobat.

    Russian A is like English A in father. It's more ARE than the A in Jack.
    Russian Э is mostly commonly used for this English A, such as in pan, man, Jack, smack.

    Say we write the English word Lack in Russian.
    Лак = this would sound very like the English word lark.
    Лэк = this sounds much more like the English word.

    As for Джек vs. Джэк they are identical, since ж is always hard.

    E.g. after Ж, the letter E is pronounced Э.


    And as for MacDonalds, it is actually McDonald's, there is no A.
    There is a Schwa between the M and C however, and since the A in the Russian МакДоналдс is unstressed, it is pretty much a Schwa anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReDSanchous
    Remember that in Russian the name 'Jack' is pronounced the same way as in English. Jack = Джэк. But it's not true of all words. For example, MacDonald's is pronounced as Макдонал(ь)дс in Russian. The letter 'ь' is in brackets because some prounounce it while others prefer to omit it.
    I think Джэк would be Jake and Джак would be Jack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderkat
    Quote Originally Posted by ReDSanchous
    Remember that in Russian the name 'Jack' is pronounced the same way as in English. Jack = Джэк. But it's not true of all words. For example, MacDonald's is pronounced as Макдонал(ь)дс in Russian. The letter 'ь' is in brackets because some prounounce it while others prefer to omit it.
    I think Джэк would be Jake and Джак would be Jack.
    No, it is not

    Jake = Джейк / Джэйк
    Jack = Джек / Джэк

    I think if you can't make this distinction your Russian pronunciation may be incorrect.

    When I was in Russia I saw an ad on TV for the new Batman movie Бэтмeн начало

    Also a buisinessman in Russian is Бизнесмен
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    No, it is not

    Jake = Джейк / Джэйк
    Jack = Джек / Джэк

    I think if you can't make this distinction your Russian pronunciation may be incorrect.

    When I was in Russia I saw an ad on TV for the new Batman movie Бэтмeн начало

    Also a buisinessman in Russian is Бизнесмен
    I agree with you Jake = Джейк / Джзйк. About Jack it will depend on how you pronounce it because over here the [a] sounds like the [a] in 'apple' and not in 'amen' or the letter 'a' of the alphabet.
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    Джзйк
    Джэйк

    Watch that Э (E) letter, it's not З (Z), although they look similar.

    Jack is transliterated as Джек / Джэк by tradition (both are pronounced the same). I don't advise transliterating it as Джак, you will be always corrected, it's a too common name and everyone knows Джек / Джэк (the first is more common).

    It's not always that stressed A is transliterated as Э/Е in Russian, e.g. spammer - спаммер but you should know that when it is transliterated as A it is also pronounced that way спаммер is pronounced as "spummer".
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    It's true that it's written Джэk but it's more of Джэak when you try to mimic american Jack the Д is barely heard otherwise it wouldn't be Jack at all but Djack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzu
    It's true that it's written Джэk but it's more of Джэak when you try to mimic american Jack the Д is barely heard otherwise it wouldn't be Jack at all but Djack.
    Mimicking a foreign accent with another language 100% is impossible that's why you need to learn the pronunciation rules and use international transcription symbols, otherwise we get endless discussions about "what we really hear". Sorry, Suzu but you'll confuse by introducing "Джэak". I only explained why Джек, not Джак.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Анатолий
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzu
    It's true that it's written Джэk but it's more of Джэak when you try to mimic american Jack the Д is barely heard otherwise it wouldn't be Jack at all but Djack.
    Mimicking a foreign accent with another language 100% is impossible that's why you need to learn the pronunciation rules and use international transcription symbols, otherwise we get endless discussions about "what we really hear". Sorry, Suzu but you'll confuse by introducing "Джэak". I only explained why Джек, not Джак.

    http://online.multilex.ru/default.as..._uid=169750392
    I didn't intro anything, I just tried to explain how it is really pronounced in U.S. even mentioned that the written original is the correct form. You mention that
    need to learn the pronunciation rules and use international transcription symbols
    but problem is that majority don't even realize such a thing existing and if they do, most won't go out of their way to look for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Анатолий
    Джзйк
    Джэйк

    Watch that Э (E) letter, it's not З (Z), although they look similar.

    Jack is transliterated as Джек / Джэк by tradition (both are pronounced the same). I don't advise transliterating it as Джак, you will be always corrected, it's a too common name and everyone knows Джек / Джэк (the first is more common).

    It's not always that stressed A is transliterated as Э/Е in Russian, e.g. spammer - спаммер but you should know that when it is transliterated as A it is also pronounced that way спаммер is pronounced as "spummer".
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    What I meant is even like you said the transliteration is Джек or Джэк and you're probably right it doesn't sound Jack as if it's pronounced by an English speaker.
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