Thread: A couple simple phrases

Davno tebya ne slishal Da, prihoditsya inogda smotret za Bob, no v obshem on sebya horosho vedet Kak y tebya dela? Priezzay v gosti, poobshaemsya

what does the above mean?


also

how would I say "I understand everything you all are saying"

and "I'm just kidding"

how would I say those phonetically?

Davno tebya ne slishal Da, prihoditsya inogda smotret za Bob, no v obshem on sebya horosho vedet Kak y tebya dela? Priezzay v gosti, poobshaemsya

I havnt heard from you in a long time. Sometimes i have to look after bob, but he pretty much behaves himself. How are you? come over sometime! Cya later...

I understand everything you're saying (obviously a lie)
-ya ponimayu vsoh shto vi govoreti

Just joking - Ya shuchu

ah thank you!

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

-ya ponimayu vsoh shto vi govorite

really... you're really correcting my translit?


if u must know i did it like that because the stress is говорите and its nealy impossible to get an "ee" sound from i in english especially if you don't know what you reading, but if you put e hed probly assume its ee. and yea unstressed e is almost like I.

Я не очень поняла, что ты написал, но, видимо, тебе не понравилось, что я тебя исправляю.
В любом случае хочу тебе сказать, что у русского траслита тоже есть свои правила орфографии. И ни один русский не напишет "говорите" как "govoreti".

wanna make a bet?

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

wanna make a bet?

1. You don't speak (and write) better Russian than me. ©

2. http://www.transliteration.ru/
http://www.transliteration.ru/gost.html
http://www.transliteration.ru/iso.html
http://www.transliteration.ru/iso_for_url.html
http://www.transliteration.ru/hand_transliteration.html

$5 on olga

Originally Posted by Оля

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

-ya ponimayu vsoh shto vi govorite

I don't know how to transliterate because I think it is useless and I don't care to learn useless things.
But, if somebody held a gun to my head and said transliterate "говорите", I would transliterate it as "gavoreete" since
"-ite" is often pronounced as in the word "bite".

If somebody finds me with a bullet hole in my head, I blame MR. (joke)

Originally Posted by shadow1

But, if somebody held a gun to my head and said transliterate "говорите", I would transliterate it as "gavoreete"

"gavoreete" and "gavoreti" is not the same, absolutely. I understand your variant ("...reete").

ok so now that i have a real keyboard and im not typing under the watchfull eyes of one of my teachers, let me reiterate myself in a longer more meaningfull explaination...


I said govoreti, because the И In говорИте is streesed. I think the american american would pronounce e, as "ee" since the name of the letter, is, "ee" (like "lake EErie"). And since the е is not stressed it sounds a lot like an и, which sounds a lot like "i".

So an american who knew nothing of russian pronunciation would most likely read "Govoreti" as "govoreete".

If i said "govorite" it could be assued as "go-vor-ite (like Ayte)" or "go-vo-rite" like "right" or "go-vor-it-e" like "it".

I simply did it for the ease of his pronunciation. If I was going for 100% accuracy i woulda said "Gavoreetee"... And I doubt that brown majic understand the joys of perfect transliterization as well as you do, любимая оля...

I don't know dogboy, if I see a foreign word spelled like:

"trapolerg"

I wouldn't pronounce the "e" as "ee" but as a short "e" just like in a normal English word (like: "leg", "bed", "better", "Megan", etc.)

if it was "rutkludit" I would pronounce the "i" not as "AI" but like in any normal English word witht he simaler ending (like: "bit", "Schmidt", "fit", "pundit"). I highly doubt someone will say "rutkludAIt"

That is why you will find that говорите is usually translated as govorite/govoreetye, etc.

well you're norweigan, and im talking about govorit, not alll those other words.

The notion that any american would pronounce 'ee' when reading 'Govoreti' is absurd. They would read it as the same sound in 'bet'. There is nothing to indicate that it should be otherwise.

This is really entertaining. In my opinion, saying that there are actual transliteration rules every russian adheres to is a drastic overstatement. Maybe I should jump in and start arguing that "vsoh shto vi" is correctly spelled "vsyo, chto vy". Or should it be "vsjo, chto vy" according to the ГОСТ 16876-71, an official guideline which I personally see for the first time in my entire life? They don't teach that in school

i hate when people tarnzlit3rize chevo,evo,sevodnya,etc...as chego.
its pretty annoying.

О чем вы спорите, господа? Вы ведь говорите о совершенно разных вещах.

Есть разница между транслитерацией, (записью кириллицы латинскими буквами), для которой действительно существуют четкие правила (и в этом случае будет именно "govorite"), и транскрибированием (максимально адекватным воспроизвдением звучания слова буквами чужого языка).

Поэтому наиболее естественная (для русского) транслитерация - "vsyo, chto vy". Она читается легко, почти как русский текст.

"vsoh shto vi"... Я лично с разбегу запнулась на первом же слове "всох". Кто всох, куда всох?

А вот транскрибирование - совсем другое дело. Тут, как говорится, бывают варианты.

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

Поэтому наиболее естественная (для русского) транслитерация - "vsyo, chto vy". Она читается легко, почти как русский текст.

I beg your pardon, it's "vsjo, chto vy", just as ГОСТ 16876-71 says, it's official and it's serious business now

This argument has nothing to do with Russian grammar. Some Russian forums do not even allow transliteration, as there is no common standard and it's usually difficult to read anyways.

Originally Posted by adoc

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

Поэтому наиболее естественная (для русского) транслитерация - "vsyo, chto vy". Она читается легко, почти как русский текст.

I beg your pardon, it's "vsjo, chto vy", just as ГОСТ 16876-71 says, it's official and it's serious business now

You're right. Bloody Internet spoiled my transliteration skills.