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    Какой-никакой, а сабджект :)

    I am a native Russian speaker, and i clearly understand, what the expression "какой-никакой, а...." means. HOWEVER, I don't have a slightest idea as to HOW to express the same idea in English... I don't mean there should be some set phrase, it may be a different gramatical structure, but how would you translate, say, these two sentences:

    Я тут вчера на базаре "Рекорд" черно-белый у одного алкаша купил... Все же, какой-никакой, а телевизор...

    "Рекорд" is a name of some obsolete soviet tvsets...
    If you want me to explain, what this phrase means, ask me to...
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    Я конечно не уверен, но думаю это "какой-никакой" можно выразить следующим образом Yesterday I bought a black and white TV "Rekord" from a dipso, pretty old but still a TV.

    Я думаю still передает значение "все же, какой-никакой".
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    What I came to think of was "it's not much of a TV(-set), but still....". Am i right or am i right?
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    I bought a "Rekord", black and white. No frills but still a TV set.
    Jonesboro, Arkansas. Mean, stupid, violent fat people, no jobs, nothing to do, hotter than a dog with 2 d--cks.

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    ABBYY Ligvo:
    Frills
    2) роскошь, излишества, ненужные украшения

    is this THE meaning you mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibolit
    ABBYY Ligvo:
    Frills
    2) роскошь, излишества, ненужные украшения

    is this THE meaning you mean
    "No frills but still" ~ "essential", "basic". Какой-никакой.
    Jonesboro, Arkansas. Mean, stupid, violent fat people, no jobs, nothing to do, hotter than a dog with 2 d--cks.

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    Maybe I'm slow, but I'm not sure I understand. Какой никакой means that something is very basic, not fancy, and you use it like if you were saying "still..."?
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    Quote Originally Posted by emka71aln
    Maybe I'm slow, but I'm not sure I understand. Какой никакой means that something is very basic, not fancy, and you use it like if you were saying "still..."?
    Which message are you referring to? I said "No frills but still a TV set". Do you disagree that it means "The TV set is basic but functional"?
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    No, I don't disagree at all, especially since I don't think I've ever heard it before. I just wanted to make sure that that was actually what it meant, so if I don't use it wrong and sound confusing. Какой-никакой = no frills. Got it. Thanks
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    In this case, it does (not to make it any more difficult ). The feeling is, пусть телевизор плохой (без прибамбасов), все равно - телевизор. In other contexts, maybe a homework assignment was poorly done, but, still, it was done i.e. quality varies.

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