Thread: США и амер. политика, общество, люди. О жизни + всякое смешное

The USA is the only country that has morally degraded since the 18^thcentury? Really?

I’ve never sang the US national anthem. Why? I stink at singing. I’ve never had a problem not singing. It is rude to talk during the singing of it though. I’ve never seen anybody not participate in the pledge of allegiance but am many years removed from going to school.

“That’s not what the founding fathers would have wanted” could be used when not having a valid argument, I guess, but to me is used mainly against those that believe that the ends justify the means and that the constitution is inconvenient and to be trampled on.

We in the USA, not like other parts of the world, are free to criticize our government. We are also free to criticize the founding fathers. My response to anyone (slavery is vile and never should have been allowed to continue when the constitution was written - women should've been allowed to vote) who criticizes the founders would be to ask why are you here? I’ve never had to ask though.

My great great great great great grandfather was in the very first battle of the American Revolution:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_lexington

and was injured. I’m proud that he was a part of the fight for freedom. For all the warts that the USA has, I hope to pass freedom down to the next generation.

All IMHO,

Scott

Originally Posted by Hanna

What would happened to an American child who was disillusioned with wars, drones, NSA etc and refused to participate in the "pledge of allegiance" in US schools every day?
For example if the child asked to be excused on conscientious grounds?

I always see Americans put their hands on their heart and look very serious when the US national anthem is played. However, I only know expats and saw it on TV - may not be "real" situations. Is it ok for somebody to not sing along and just stand passively, or even talk while the song is being sung?

I always see Americans referring to the "Founding Fathers" as if they were some semi-divine people, always right, always well intentioned. If you do not know who they were and are interested, list is here .

Please note that from a British perspective at the time, many of these people were illegal insurgents and terrorists. Worth bearing in mind when the US is pointing fingers and announcing to the world whose freedom fight is legit and democratic and who are terrorists.

Is it socially acceptable to criticize these people? In US talk show, the "founding father" argument is often pulled out to discredit opponents. "that's not what the founding fathers would have wanted!".
It's like they are Christians quoting Jesus or Communists quoting Marx. What if somebody responded with "I don't care what those old codgers thought! Have you got any real arguments or just old fairy tales?"
Is it ok to question their motivation and characters?

And doesn't it go without saying that anyone from the 18th century would be disgusted at the moral degradation of the US today? Hipocricy?

US Pledge of Allegiance (repeated every day in school)










One of the Founding Fathers allegedly "never told a lie". Is it ok to question the validity and motivation of these people?

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Comedian Larry the Cable guy. (He is being sarcastic here. Just in case...).

Originally Posted by Lampada

Good, but don't forget the near 500,000 Iraqis who have died since the US first started its vendetta against Iraq/

Originally Posted by Lampada

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" The next time you think you just can't reach your goals in life, remember these amazing people who prove to us all, 'where there is a will, there is a way.' We all have challenges in life, but it's what we do with those challenges that counts.
"

There is a man without arms (thalidomide victim) who runs a ferry service across the river Thames near my building. Just motor dinghy for people who are out walking and don't want to walk to the next bridge. It's amazing to see how he manages the boat entirely without normal arms. He's got some kind of hands attached to little stubs coming off his shoulders. As far as I know, all thalidomide victims in Europe got some form of settlements and don't really have to work much. But he does hard physical labour almost every day in the summer.

Maybe if this didn't happen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Kuwait

The USA would've had no business there.

Scott

Originally Posted by Hanna

Good, but don't forget the near 500,000 Iraqis who have died since the US first started its vendetta against Iraq/

Which country has been involved in the most wars

Scott

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Дожились !

FBI director: Zero tolerance pot policy kills our ability to hire cyber war programmers



" FBI director James Comey said this week that the bureau may be forced to change its drug policy because the U.S. could not find enough programmers who did not use marijuana to fight cyber crime.

According to The Wall Street Journal, Comey told the White Collar Crime Institute’s annual conference on Monday that it was going to be difficult to fill the 2,000 new jobs that Congress had authorized this year.

“I have to hire a great work force to compete with those cyber criminals and some of those kids want to smoke weed on the way to the interview,” Comey explained. ... "




"Just kidding!" - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5367882.html

That's funny, the same quote can be used on Joe Biden also.


Scott

Originally Posted by Lampada

Some comments on FB:


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Ilia Efimovich Repin






Date: 1800–1880
Culture: Russian
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Culture: Russian
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Snow, Winter in Vitebsk

Marc Chagall
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Arkhip Ivanovich Kuindzhi
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Date: 19th century
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Это все, конечно, замечательно, но как это относится к теме треда?

Originally Posted by dtrq

Это все, конечно, замечательно, но как это относится к теме треда?

Да, замечательно, что можно посмотреть. Можно, конечно, открыть отдельную тему. Например: Русское искусство в американских музеях.

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http://www.hillwoodmuseum.org/about-...ian-collection

К Е Маковский Боярский свадебный пир в xvii веке 1883

Есть мнение, что 50 миллионов на спасение пчёл катастрофически мало.

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