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    "Хиллари Клинтон выиграла борьбу за то, чтобы стать кандидатом в президенты от Демократической партии. И я поздравляю ее с этим. И я намерен сделать все возможное, чтобы она стала президентом США", - сказал Сандерс, выступая на предвыборной митинге Клинтон в штате Нью-Гемпшир.
    Лампада,это позорище!! Так надругаться над идеалами фейсбучных хомячков! Поманил громкими лозунгами и забросил, продавшись за тридцать сребреников! Махровый лузер, ваш Берни!

    Выборы в США: Сандерс поддержал Клинтон - Korrespondent.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by diogen_ View Post
    Лампада,это позорище!! Так надругаться над идеалами фейсбучных хомячков! Поманил громкими лозунгами и забросил, продавшись за тридцать сребреников! Махровый лузер, ваш Берни!

    Выборы в США: Сандерс поддержал Клинтон - Korrespondent.net
    Глянь, примчался. Поизголяться, соль на рану насыпать... И без того тошно.

    Всё не так просто.

    From Facebook: "As per DNC rules, a candidate with an active campaign is not allowed to deny an endorsement of another campaign. Doing so would result in forfeiture of said candidate's superdelegate status, and the loss of access to the convention floor stage.

    You must come to understand that the nature of politics is to subtract meaning from language.
    Although Bernie Sanders is a statesman, he's still a politician.

    Have a bit of patience, and wait for Bernie Sanders to make his case at the Democratic National Convention.
    By "endorsing" Hillary Clinton, Sanders is actively preserving his options, and buying time."




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    https://theindependentthinker2016.wo...america-today/

    What Bernie Sanders Gave to America Today



    Posted on July 12, 2016
    by The Independent Thinker


    Today, my hero, Bernie Sanders, endorsed Hillary Clinton, a woman that I truly believe is sociopathic, for the office of the President of the United States and then immediately the sun hid behind a cloud and it began to rain.
    I was grateful for the rain.
    It’s been pretty humid here for the last several days and I was in need of the empathy.
    I fought back tears as I left the gym.
    I am not afraid to cry.
    I just prefer to do it while I am writing.
    I went home and grabbed my laptop.
    I knew all this fire stinging my eyes was way too complex to be worked out with a box of tissues or a ton of free weights.
    I made a point to stay off social media.
    I had no time for haters, turncoats or conspiracy theorists.
    I drove to the coffee shop and put in my ear buds.
    Behind my glasses, I watched people moving here and there, seemingly clueless to the great turmoil taking place in their country.
    I did not envy them.
    I am awake now.
    And I will never sleep again.



    Bernie Sanders is the greatest politician of my lifetime.

    He is the greatest statesman of my lifetime.
    He is the greatest human being I have ever had the privilege of witnessing.
    He is the voice of my generation and long after he ceases to speak, his words will echo throughout the hearts and minds of millions.
    Bernie Sanders is an activist.
    He stood up for me before I even knew his name…before I was even born.
    Bernie Sanders inspired tens of millions of people to get outside of their comfort zones and shove their middle fingers in the face of evil.
    Bernie Sanders was “dangerous”.
    Bernie Sanders rattled cages.
    Bernie Sanders raged against the machine!!
    Bernie Sanders taught us all how this thing was supposed to be done.
    Bernie Sanders is a prophet and a Buddha.
    He continued to speak peace when all those around him declared war.
    He woke up an entire generation and inspired tens of thousands to perform a hostile takeover of their government.
    Bernie Sanders is a true revolutionary.
    So why the hell did he endorse Hillary Clinton?



    Do not tell me that Bernie Sanders is just another bought and paid for politician.

    To even utter such nonsense would show complete and all-encompassing ignorance.
    This man has fought for what is right when literally no one was fighting by his side.
    This man went toe to toe with Alan Greenspan for eight and a half hours.
    This man spoke the truth why corrupt politicians laughed at him and left the room in blatant shows of disrespect.
    Bernie Sanders was the tree, falling again and again in the D.C. forest of corruption.
    Bernie Sanders was the one hand clapping against the fascist regime, when you and I were still watching CNN and calling it news.
    Bernie Sanders is The Truth.
    So don’t even think about telling me that Bernie Sanders sold out, as if suddenly, after 40 years of trying, the powers that be, finally found some secret treasure that Senator Sanders could not resist.
    And do not waste my time with your foolish conspiracy theories about how Hillary Clinton threatened him in some way.
    They have been threatening Bernie Sanders for decades.
    Bernie Sanders does not succumb to threats.
    Bernie Sanders endorsed Hillary Clinton because he cares more about us than he does about selfish glory.
    Bernie Sanders changed the world again today and if you weren’t watching closely, you may have missed it.
    Bernie Sanders just sent millions of poor kids to college.
    Bernie Sanders just saved millions of lives.



    As part of Bernie Sanders’ agreement to endorse Hillary Clinton, Clinton had to agree to support free public universities for low income families.

    This is not something that she wanted.
    So why will she keep up her end of the bargain?
    Because she is driven by ego.
    She wants to be recognized as a good person and a good president.
    I know she lies and breaks promises and Bernie knows this too.
    But she won’t break this one, because Sanders handed her the carrot, but saved the stick for us.
    Today marks a reset button for Hillary Clinton.
    Bernie Sanders gave her a chance to step up and do the right thing and if she doesn’t, then she will find that there are tens of millions of sticks all over this country that will cut through the air simultaneously and make her presidency a complete debacle.
    I am referring to the tens of millions of activists who will watch Hillary Clinton’s every move from this day forward and make her life difficult every time she breaks a promise to the American people.
    I am referring to the tens of thousands of activists who are running for public office, who will take over our House and Senate and infect change from the inside.
    I am referring to you.
    You have a stick and I encourage you to use it.
    Because of Sanders’ sacrifice today, millions of American children will have a way to escape extreme poverty and follow their dreams.
    Because of Sanders’ sacrifice today, there is now light penetrating the darkness in the places that our government forgot to represent.
    I, like you, wanted Bernie to win the Presidency and there is little doubt that he could have done so through an Independent run, but if he had won, he would have met with extreme opposition from the establishment that owns every branch of our government.
    Sanders would have toiled in office, waiting for new elections, so that activists could take over the seats required to pass the bills that the establishment would strike down.
    So Sanders did what any wise old warrior would do.
    He conceded the battle, so that we might win the war.
    And Clinton will get the college bill passed through, whereas Sanders would not have been able to.
    She has the contacts in the House and Senate to make it happen.
    It will become the cornerstone of her presidency.
    She will act like she thought of it and the uniformed will talk about what a hero she is and she will stand on the stage and wave and smile and some impoverished child somewhere will show their report card to their mother and their mother will smile and say..
    “Thanks to Hillary, you will be able to become a doctor if you keep this up.”
    And those millions of educated young people will go out and change the world for the better.
    So just in case you missed it..
    That’s what Bernie Sanders gave to America today.







    Prince, Bernie Sanders and the Phoenix of Democracy

    In "Politics"

    Sharpen Your Pitchforks America - This Could Get Ugly

    In "Politics"

    With Courage to Bern

    In "Politics"





    Posted This It Was Never About Bernie Sanders

    6 thoughts on “What Bernie Sanders Gave to America Today


    • Sue Boardman says:
      July 12, 2016 at 9:02 pm
      Thank you. I, too, prefer to cry when I write. It’s looking like a 2-box of Kleenex day! You said what I can’t say yet, and I’m grateful!
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    • Nate Dog says:
      July 12, 2016 at 9:25 pm
      I love this. Seriously. Really well done.
      It wasn’t for nothing. The Sanders campaign made a difference. Clinton wanted that endorsement. She really did. And she had to come to him to get it.
      Most people aren’t going to trust her. That’s fine. You don’t have to trust her. As Michael pointed out, you just have to trust that she’ll ruthlessly pursue her own self interest. Living up to promises is how she builds her ego, creates a place in history, and gets re elected.
      She moved leftward on healthcare too. That’s because of the work of Sanders and his supporters. That’s something to celebrate, not something to lament
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    • linden33 says:
      July 12, 2016 at 11:17 pm
      Thank you for a brilliant synopsis of what Sanders supporters should be considering now! After I spent a few hours of reading inflammatory and even hysterical comments on progressive sites about how disappointed they all are with Sanders, it’s time to take stock and bring in some sunshine . . .
      >
      Liked by 1 person

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    • patilla10 says:
      July 12, 2016 at 11:42 pm
      Thank you for such a poignant message (that made me cry). Bernie made the supreme sacrifice for us.
      Liked by 1 person

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    • Bruce says:
      July 13, 2016 at 12:08 am
      EXCEPT, Hellary LIES and the DEM ‘Platform” is jest Planks of WOULD (except for all those PNAC Tacks in yer A$$E$) ! Lost Her $kirt ! https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...caabb36bad.jpg
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    • Marcia Camino says:
      July 13, 2016 at 1:33 am
      Gorgeous. You are a gifted writer, thinker, heart, and spokesperson.
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    После всего, может, придётся голосовать за Юлю. "Jill Stein was a 99% match with Bernie Sanders and 91% match with Hillary Clinton on SideWith, a political quiz on political stances."
    Она из наших: "Her parents were both from Russian Jewish families." (вики)


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    IMHO - unless term limits are put in place for both houses of Congress this all is just a waste of time.

    Scott





    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    https://theindependentthinker2016.wo...america-today/

    What Bernie Sanders Gave to America Today



    Posted on July 12, 2016
    by The Independent Thinker


    Today, my hero, Bernie Sanders, endorsed Hillary Clinton, a woman that I truly believe is sociopathic, for the office of the President of the United States and then immediately the sun hid behind a cloud and it began to rain.
    I was grateful for the rain.
    It’s been pretty humid here for the last several days and I was in need of the empathy.
    I fought back tears as I left the gym.
    I am not afraid to cry.
    I just prefer to do it while I am writing.
    I went home and grabbed my laptop.
    I knew all this fire stinging my eyes was way too complex to be worked out with a box of tissues or a ton of free weights.
    I made a point to stay off social media.
    I had no time for haters, turncoats or conspiracy theorists.
    I drove to the coffee shop and put in my ear buds.
    Behind my glasses, I watched people moving here and there, seemingly clueless to the great turmoil taking place in their country.
    I did not envy them.
    I am awake now.
    And I will never sleep again.



    Bernie Sanders is the greatest politician of my lifetime.

    He is the greatest statesman of my lifetime.
    He is the greatest human being I have ever had the privilege of witnessing.
    He is the voice of my generation and long after he ceases to speak, his words will echo throughout the hearts and minds of millions.
    Bernie Sanders is an activist.
    He stood up for me before I even knew his name…before I was even born.
    Bernie Sanders inspired tens of millions of people to get outside of their comfort zones and shove their middle fingers in the face of evil.
    Bernie Sanders was “dangerous”.
    Bernie Sanders rattled cages.
    Bernie Sanders raged against the machine!!
    Bernie Sanders taught us all how this thing was supposed to be done.
    Bernie Sanders is a prophet and a Buddha.
    He continued to speak peace when all those around him declared war.
    He woke up an entire generation and inspired tens of thousands to perform a hostile takeover of their government.
    Bernie Sanders is a true revolutionary.
    So why the hell did he endorse Hillary Clinton?



    Do not tell me that Bernie Sanders is just another bought and paid for politician.

    To even utter such nonsense would show complete and all-encompassing ignorance.
    This man has fought for what is right when literally no one was fighting by his side.
    This man went toe to toe with Alan Greenspan for eight and a half hours.
    This man spoke the truth why corrupt politicians laughed at him and left the room in blatant shows of disrespect.
    Bernie Sanders was the tree, falling again and again in the D.C. forest of corruption.
    Bernie Sanders was the one hand clapping against the fascist regime, when you and I were still watching CNN and calling it news.
    Bernie Sanders is The Truth.
    So don’t even think about telling me that Bernie Sanders sold out, as if suddenly, after 40 years of trying, the powers that be, finally found some secret treasure that Senator Sanders could not resist.
    And do not waste my time with your foolish conspiracy theories about how Hillary Clinton threatened him in some way.
    They have been threatening Bernie Sanders for decades.
    Bernie Sanders does not succumb to threats.
    Bernie Sanders endorsed Hillary Clinton because he cares more about us than he does about selfish glory.
    Bernie Sanders changed the world again today and if you weren’t watching closely, you may have missed it.
    Bernie Sanders just sent millions of poor kids to college.
    Bernie Sanders just saved millions of lives.



    As part of Bernie Sanders’ agreement to endorse Hillary Clinton, Clinton had to agree to support free public universities for low income families.

    This is not something that she wanted.
    So why will she keep up her end of the bargain?
    Because she is driven by ego.
    She wants to be recognized as a good person and a good president.
    I know she lies and breaks promises and Bernie knows this too.
    But she won’t break this one, because Sanders handed her the carrot, but saved the stick for us.
    Today marks a reset button for Hillary Clinton.
    Bernie Sanders gave her a chance to step up and do the right thing and if she doesn’t, then she will find that there are tens of millions of sticks all over this country that will cut through the air simultaneously and make her presidency a complete debacle.
    I am referring to the tens of millions of activists who will watch Hillary Clinton’s every move from this day forward and make her life difficult every time she breaks a promise to the American people.
    I am referring to the tens of thousands of activists who are running for public office, who will take over our House and Senate and infect change from the inside.
    I am referring to you.
    You have a stick and I encourage you to use it.
    Because of Sanders’ sacrifice today, millions of American children will have a way to escape extreme poverty and follow their dreams.
    Because of Sanders’ sacrifice today, there is now light penetrating the darkness in the places that our government forgot to represent.
    I, like you, wanted Bernie to win the Presidency and there is little doubt that he could have done so through an Independent run, but if he had won, he would have met with extreme opposition from the establishment that owns every branch of our government.
    Sanders would have toiled in office, waiting for new elections, so that activists could take over the seats required to pass the bills that the establishment would strike down.
    So Sanders did what any wise old warrior would do.
    He conceded the battle, so that we might win the war.
    And Clinton will get the college bill passed through, whereas Sanders would not have been able to.
    She has the contacts in the House and Senate to make it happen.
    It will become the cornerstone of her presidency.
    She will act like she thought of it and the uniformed will talk about what a hero she is and she will stand on the stage and wave and smile and some impoverished child somewhere will show their report card to their mother and their mother will smile and say..
    “Thanks to Hillary, you will be able to become a doctor if you keep this up.”
    And those millions of educated young people will go out and change the world for the better.
    So just in case you missed it..
    That’s what Bernie Sanders gave to America today.







    Prince, Bernie Sanders and the Phoenix of Democracy

    In "Politics"

    Sharpen Your Pitchforks America - This Could Get Ugly

    In "Politics"

    With Courage to Bern

    In "Politics"





    Posted This It Was Never About Bernie Sanders

    6 thoughts on “What Bernie Sanders Gave to America Today


    • Sue Boardman says:
      July 12, 2016 at 9:02 pm
      Thank you. I, too, prefer to cry when I write. It’s looking like a 2-box of Kleenex day! You said what I can’t say yet, and I’m grateful!
      Liked by 2 people

      Reply
    • Nate Dog says:
      July 12, 2016 at 9:25 pm
      I love this. Seriously. Really well done.
      It wasn’t for nothing. The Sanders campaign made a difference. Clinton wanted that endorsement. She really did. And she had to come to him to get it.
      Most people aren’t going to trust her. That’s fine. You don’t have to trust her. As Michael pointed out, you just have to trust that she’ll ruthlessly pursue her own self interest. Living up to promises is how she builds her ego, creates a place in history, and gets re elected.
      She moved leftward on healthcare too. That’s because of the work of Sanders and his supporters. That’s something to celebrate, not something to lament
      Liked by 1 person

      Reply
    • linden33 says:
      July 12, 2016 at 11:17 pm
      Thank you for a brilliant synopsis of what Sanders supporters should be considering now! After I spent a few hours of reading inflammatory and even hysterical comments on progressive sites about how disappointed they all are with Sanders, it’s time to take stock and bring in some sunshine . . .
      >
      Liked by 1 person

      Reply
    • patilla10 says:
      July 12, 2016 at 11:42 pm
      Thank you for such a poignant message (that made me cry). Bernie made the supreme sacrifice for us.
      Liked by 1 person

      Reply
    • Bruce says:
      July 13, 2016 at 12:08 am
      EXCEPT, Hellary LIES and the DEM ‘Platform” is jest Planks of WOULD (except for all those PNAC Tacks in yer A$$E$) ! Lost Her $kirt ! https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...caabb36bad.jpg
      Liked by 1 person

      Reply
    • Marcia Camino says:
      July 13, 2016 at 1:33 am
      Gorgeous. You are a gifted writer, thinker, heart, and spokesperson.
      Liked by 1 person

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortheether View Post
    IMHO - unless term limits are put in place for both houses of Congress this all is just a waste of time.

    Scott
    Точно. Но я надеюсь, что народ теперь будет голосовать за прогрессивных кандидатов, которые поддерживают Берни идеи. Он работает над этим, по крайней мере деньги для них собирает и будет их продвигать.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    После всего, может, придётся голосовать за Юлю. "Jill Stein was a 99% match with Bernie Sanders and 91% match with Hillary Clinton on SideWith, a political quiz on political stances."
    Она из наших: "Her parents were both from Russian Jewish families." (вики)
    Как пел незабвенный Костя Беляев: "Евреи, евреи, кругом одни евреи"

    Но вы,Лампада, оказывается все еще в сказки верите! Неужели не ясно, что либо Клинтонша, либо Трамп станет следующим президентом и никаких Йуль в Белом доме впомине не будет!! Кончайте фантазировать и спускайтесь на землю. Даю гарантию в 101,5%!

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    Эксцентричный миллиардер опережает бывшую главу Госдепа на три процента (48 процентов против 45) при условии отсутствия других кандидатов. Если же кандидатов будет четыре, включая либертарианца Гэри Джонсона и ставленника «зеленых» Джилл Стайн, то тогда отрыв Трампа от Клинтон увеличится еще на два процента (44 против 39).
    https://lenta.ru/news/2016/07/25/the_bounce_is_back/

    Ура!! Трамп наконец-то начинает обходить Клинтоншу!! Какая глыба, какой матерый человечище, второй Рузвельт!!

    А что там Берни, Лампада? Так и проглотил последние утечки о партийных махинациях в пользу Клинтон? И еще и возмущались, что я его лузером называл,а!?

    И чего-то я не вижу большого продвижения у Йули

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    Quote Originally Posted by diogen_ View Post
    ...
    А что там Берни, Лампада? Так и проглотил последние утечки о партийных махинациях в пользу Клинтон? И еще и возмущались, что я его лузером называл,а!?

    И чего-то я не вижу большого продвижения у Йули
    Надежда умирает последней. Берни ещё ни разу не сказал: "I concede".

    Что-то ещё сегодня происходит:

    Will DNC Give Sanders Supporters the Full Roll Call Vote They Seek? | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community


    Какая хитрая улыбка!

    Про Юлю пока не знаю. Она у меня на очереди.

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    Portia Boulger, delegate, at dem. convention.
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    https://www.facebook.com/Farvoyager/...type=2&theater

    Наша Дебби там воюет вовсю.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    Надежда умирает последней. Берни ещё ни разу не сказал: "I concede".

    Что-то ещё сегодня происходит:

    Will DNC Give Sanders Supporters the Full Roll Call Vote They Seek? | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community


    Какая хитрая улыбка!

    Про Юлю пока не знаю. Она у меня на очереди.
    Все, все уже все закончилось!! Как можно отрицать очевидность! А спорить со мной - это как плевать против ветра!!
    Bernie Sanders: 'Hillary Clinton will make an outstanding president' – video
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...resident-video

    Ну что,Лампада, теперь прошла любовь к Берни, или еще что-то в душе к этому жалкому прогнувшемуся лузеру по инерции теплится?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diogen_ View Post
    Все, все уже все закончилось!! Как можно отрицать очевидность! А спорить со мной - это как плевать против ветра!!

    ...
    Ну что,Лампада, теперь прошла любовь к Берни, или еще что-то в душе к этому жалкому прогнувшемуся лузеру по инерции теплится?
    Ой, да что ж ты такой недобрый?
    Повторяюсь, что суть дела совсем не в Берни и не в Юлии, а в том, за что они стоят и в том, что они всколыхнули народ. Движение, которое Берни вдохновил, будет нелегко остановить.

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    Русские хакеры, помогите!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    Monkey business! Especially on the part of the creepy spineless critter that sold its puny sheepish soul to the devil in skirt!!

    Такое только от ста грамм могло взбрендить!
    Кому это надо? Никому не надо! Кому это нужно? Никому не нужно!! (С) Вика Цыганова


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    Quote Originally Posted by diogen_ View Post
    Monkey business! Especially on the part of the creepy spineless critter that sold its puny sheepish soul to the devil in skirt!!

    Такое только от ста грамм могло взбрендить!
    Кому это надо? Никому не надо! Кому это нужно? Никому не нужно!! (С) Вика Цыганова ...
    This post is off-topic and contributing nothing but spite. First warning.
    Last edited by Lampada; August 2nd, 2016 at 07:03 PM.
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