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День победы - 9 May Peace-in-Europe / Victory Day
I would really like to hear more about this day and its' traditions.
How do people "celebrate", what do they do?
How seriously do people take it? Does anyone have special plans for this day?
I read in the UK papers that some British war veterans have gone to Moscow and other locations in Russia to participate. They are super-impressed with the Russian commitment to peace day and they feel that Britain is not taking the day seriously enough.. Russia is treating them like real VIPs.
From Peace-in-Europe Day and 1 May the MUSIC is the best thing, I think. I know Russia has some really great songs, but I don't know what they are called, other than the very most well-known ones.
But I have some reservations about this day too. Does anyone else feel that way? (I personally don't like seeing large countries show off their military.... and I don't like thinking about the War in general...) PLUS -- it just feels unfair on modern day Germans to keep celebrating this for much longer.
But, on the other hand, who can resist a serious celebration with great music and fireworks!!
:good:
So let's have a thread about this holiday and it's traditions and music! Please post some nice pictures and Peace day music that you like!
Here are some catchy non-Russian songs from that era:
Incidentally, is it celebrated in the US at all?
In Britain, it's celebrated on 11 November for some reason. The celebrations are quite subdued; hymns and silent minute then they trigger the air raid alarms in some places which is spooky. Sweden does a quick ceremony sometimes on 9 May, but we were not in the war.
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Re: День победы - 9 May Peace-in-Europe / Victory Day
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I personally don't like seeing large countries show off their military
I absolutely agree with you on that.
Moreover, watching all those military parade rehearsals on TV makes me feel sorry for our country, as the ostensible greatness they are trying to flaunt doesn't actually match the squalid and deplorable state the army is really in. Instead of committing to real achievements our government is too busy trying to impress the world with outward glamour and fake grandeur. We can see the same strategy with the preparations for 2014 winter Olimpics and some other projects.
As to the celebration, I think for most people, it's no more than an additional holiday that they will be spending on dachas trampling cow dung in their greenhouses and cucumber beds. Though in the central regions they've prpbably already done it.
Oh, by the way, one more virtue of the Victory Day is that there will be no commercials on TV on that day. :-)
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I'm afraid that the generation who truly celebrates this day is gradually dying out. Ours is the last generation who had at least heard about this war immediately from those who fought it. When my grandfather was alive I always visited him on this day and congratulated him.
Now when I see all that pomp and pathos from billboards, tv screens, etc it doesn't feel right somehow. It all is just for show. Oh, in theory I would agree that certain efforts should be made to make the young remember this day, but I doubt this day will be as important for them as it is for the older people.
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I rather agree with Ramil that with the decrease of living veteran's number :sad: the meaning of the Victory Day in Russia is becoming more pompous , it was their Victory and it's their holiday first of all. Both my grandfathers, who were completely civilian people before the war (one was school teacher and the other was mining engineer) went to the front as volunteers in 1941. Luckily for me (otherwise my parents wouldn't been born) they survived this horrible war but I had an opportunity to talk with only one of them, the other one died rather early (in his early fourties, my mother was only eleven then :sad: ), because his health had been heavily damaged during the war. So, for me it's a very important holiday, but I'm afraid that for the younger generation it's just another day-off.
I do not mind the military parade at all, btw. Actually I rather like this tradition, but the whole celebration imho should be less pompous with paying more respect to veterans and with less modern politicans' PR.
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As a German, I have no problems with others celebrating that victory. I can be just as happy as any Russian that the Nazis back then did not win. :) And the Russians did pay a hefty price in human lives back then, so remembering that is fully justified.
Robin
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This is only natural I suppose. You don't celebrate the victory over Napoleon now. Times change and this war too gradually turn into several pages of school history book. I wouldn't mind military show-offs if only this didn't had a disastrous effect on the city traffic. They make repetitions and driving is absolute hell these days.
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My great-grandmother is a veteran of World War II, and 22. 04. 2010 she has reseived one medal (65 year of a victory).
In my city every year have celebratory parades, concertes and other.
P.S.
My great-grandmother with medales :)
http://pics.kz/s6/ae/24/d7/53/ae24d7...ef_preview.jpg
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Originally Posted by Ramil
I wouldn't mind military show-offs if only this didn't had a disastrous effect on the city traffic. They make repetitions and driving is absolute hell these days.
I'm just trying to avoid the city center and the roads where the main troops and the vehicles pass. As for me, driving in Moscow even became a little easier these days because many people took vacations till the 11th of May. I'v happily escaped from the city yesterday while the yesterday's evening training took place, but I'm afraid I shall not be so lucky tomorrow morning cause I will have to pass near Dzerzhinsky division's headquarters at 7 am and they will be most likely coming out for the tomorrow's final training exactly at that time. :wall:
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That's great but I live near Novy Arbat. And getting home sometimes is a challenge )))
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Originally Posted by Ramil
That's great but I live near Novy Arbat. And getting home sometimes is a challenge )))
Well, in that case you should be accustomed with traffic blocking since the president's and PM's corteges are passing where every day. :wink: If I were you I would just use the metro instead of car while these trainings take place.
To the celebrations, I was very impressed with the air show part of the forthcoming parade, this picture in particular:
http://www.imageup.ru/img101/image_43759339891.jpg
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Originally Posted by Johanna
Incidentally, is it celebrated in the US at all?[/b]
No, it's not. May 9 wasn't the end of the war for us, anyway.
Our holidays on this subject are Veterans Day (November 11 -- based on Armistice Day of WWI) and Memorial Day (May 31 -- dating back to the Civil War).
День победы is a major production here in Kazakhstan. There's a big parade down the main street in my little city and all the kids are busy all week with rehearsals for it.
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Originally Posted by Basil77
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Originally Posted by Ramil
If I were you I would just use the metro instead of car while these trainings take place.
They blow up bombs in metro :)
Well, actually my work office is 8 km from the nearest station and the only option to get there is by shuttle bus (which goes through all the traffic jams anyway) :(
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Originally Posted by Ramil
They blow up bombs in metro :)
Well, actually my work office is 8 km from the nearest station and the only option to get there is by shuttle bus (which goes through all the traffic jams anyway) :(
1) Sounds like you need a bicycle :good: or maybe a motorbike.
And about the Metro: In London the official line is: one must never let fear of terrorism change your life, then the terrorists win....
[that must be why flying from Heathrow is now the thirteenth degree of Hell and I, a Christian Swedish, woman :angel: get treated by the security staff as if I was Osama bin Laden's right hand man... ]
2) Sounds like this holiday does not stir up much sense of triumph or patriotism with anyone here at least!
*) Cool picture of SPZenA's Great-Grandmother!
My great grandmothers wartime achievement was taking in a girl from Finland who got evacuated.
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Oh, by the way, one more virtue of the Victory Day is that there will be no commercials on TV on that day. :-)
:good: :good: :good: :good: :good: :good:
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Originally Posted by Johanna
1) Sounds like you need a bicycle :good: or maybe a motorbike.
Yes, all I need is bicycle: :lol: (for maybe 3-4 moths a year, and ski as an alternative):
http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/vpa...ogs/i-1108.jpg
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Isn't there a word called "лето" in the Russian language.... :roll:
About NOW would be a good time to bring out your bike if you had one! Then use your car in the winter if you must... или идти пешком! :yahoo:
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...the-planet.gif
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Originally Posted by Johanna
Isn't there a word called "лето" in the Russian language.... :roll:
About NOW would be a good time to bring out your bike if you had one! Then use your car in the winter if you must... или идти пешком! :yahoo:
:)
I owned 3 bicycles and all were successfully stolen :) I've nowhere to store it, I live in 1 room apartment with my wife and two dogs. Walking is nice I suppose, but spending 4+ hours each working day to get from/to the station is too much, I think.
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There is a more radical solution:
http://samuelatgilgal.files.wordpres...l_yourself.jpg
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Ok - anyway; here is an actual Russian war song that I like!
Called "Smuglianka"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8Dcj56wARM
I have always been familiar with this catchy melody. But now, since I can understand a bit of Russian, I realised that the song is about a soldier who has a crush on a brunette girl who was a partisan in Moldavia (I THINK?????)
Interestingly I noticed in the comments that THREE Polish people recently made positive comments about the song. I guess it's a sign of the improved PL-RU relations as of lately!
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This song originally comes from a movie "В бой идут одни старики"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOBrSo-4 ... re=related
The information about the film: (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070861/)
But I just love this cover version of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL36QHn-Goc
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Although USA doesn't have May 9 as day of observance, every American has to learn a short speech related to something like to it's meaning. What May 9 is Russians, is something like what this speech is for Americans. Some of the last few words have found their way into constitution of the current French republic. It is the Gettysburg address, given by Lincoln in 1863. Perhaps most famous short speech In American history.
And they are found in Russian http://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%93...B5%D1%87%D1%8C
Восемьдесят семь лет тому назад наши отцы создали на этом континенте новую нацию, основанную в духе свободы и верную принципам, что все люди сотворены равными.
Теперь мы вовлечены в великую гражданскую войну, которая докажет, сможет ли долго выдержать эта нация или любая другая нация, таким образом рожденная и преданная той же идее.
Мы встретились на великом поле битвы этой войны. Мы пришли сюда для того, чтобы освятить часть этого поля как место последнего успокоения для тех, кто отдал свои жизни ради того, чтобы эта нация могла жить. Этим мы лишь достойным образом выполняем свой долг.
Но мы не можем в полном значении ни открыть, ни освятить, ни почтить эту землю. Храбрые люди, живые и мертвые, которые сражались здесь, уже освятили ее, и не в нашей слабой власти что-нибудь добавить или отнять. Мир отметит недолгой памятью то, что мы здесь говорим, но он никогда не сможет забыть то, что свершили эти люди. Для нас, живущих, лучший способ почтить память погибших — посвятить себя с удвоенной преданностью завершению того дела, которое они так благородно начали, за которое они здесь сражались и за которое с честью умерли, отдав все, что могли.
Мы должны торжественно постановить, что эти смерти не будут напрасными, и наша нация под покровительством бога получит новый источник свободы, и это правительство из народа, созданное народом и для народа, не умрет на земле.
And in English:
Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth
on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and
dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing
whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so
dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-
field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of
that field as a final resting-place for those who here gave
their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether
fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate…we cannot
consecrate…we cannot hallow…this ground. The brave men,
living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it
far above our poor power to add or detract. The world
will little note nor long remember what we say here, but
it can never forget what they did here. It is for us, the
living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished
work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly
advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the
great task remaining before us…that from these honored
dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which
they gave the last full measure of devotion; that we here
highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain;
that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of
freedom; and that government of the people, by the people,
for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
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For me this day is a very great holiday. The day is not only the thanks and gratitudes for veterans though it is also a very important part of it.
This day is a day of national unity. We as a nation had a history which unite us and it is a very good idea to have a day which revive this sense in our hearts. After years there eventually will be no people remembering that war but keeping this day for the day of the national unity is a really good idea. Every nation should have such a day like a Queen's birthday for UK for example. I absolutely agree with Seraph:
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What May 9 is Russians, is something like what this speech is for Americans.
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Originally Posted by Ramil
Now when I see all that pomp and pathos from billboards, tv screens, etc it doesn't feel right somehow
Our officials and TVs are over zealous sometimes. But there should be some movement in this field for keeping the celebration of this day for younger generation and inserting the sense of this day in their hearts.
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Originally Posted by CoffeeCup
But there should be some movement in this field for keeping the celebration of this day for younger generation and inserting the sense of this day in their hearts.
I agree, but I don't think it's possible to tell what war is to a man who never saw it. They will theoretically agree that this is terrible but this will come from their brains, not their hearts. My grandmother always said 'let it be anything but war' and my other grandmother who was lucky enough to be evacuated from Leningrad in 1942 told me that I can't even imagine what real hunger is and was furious when I left unfinished bread or some other food. My grandfather was half-deaf since the war and I saw a photograph dated 1949 (he was 32 then) and his head had gray hairs already. My other grandfather was younger (he was only 15 in 1945) his father (my great-grandfather) was killed in 1943 and he was the older one in the family with 2 younger brothers.
This day was VERY important to them because this war divided their lives in two parts (before and after).
As for the younger people - some don't even know when this war started and whom we were fighting with.
(Seriously, I know a 20 years old girl who didn't know this).
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Originally Posted by Johanna
Please post some nice pictures and Peace day music that you like!
There was a song of US pilots which became very popular in Russia at WWII "Comin' in on a wing and a prayer". It was translated to Russian and performed by utterly popular Russian singer Leonid Utesov in 1943. Here is the link for the song.
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Originally Posted by Ramil
As for the younger people - some don't even know when this war started and whom we were fighting with.
(Seriously, I know a 20 years old girl who didn't know this).
That's why there SHOULD be celebrations and parades and everything. Not only for those people who did it and some of whom still live, but also so that younger generations get to know a bit... When I was finishing school, I discovered that my best friend didn't know anthing about it either. I was rather shocked.
Frankly, I don't see any "pomp" or "pathos" about this holiday. :unknown: Some people complain about the new tradition of wearing "Георгивеские ленточки" and I don't understand those complaints either. It's a sign of memory and gratitude. Would it better if it was all forgotten? Then people would surely complain about how ungrateful everyone is.
"The Georgian band" (?) is distributed for free and can be worn on the 9 of May attached to your clothes (chest) or a car antennae.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._lentochka.jpg
In France there are military parades on Bastille Day, 14 July, which is their national holiday. It commemorates the 1790 the storming of the Bastille fortress-prison during the French Revolution. So the French still celebrate (very grandly too, with airplanes and everything) something which happened quite a long time ago, something which happened during a horrifically bloody revolution and which to led to a civil war. And the Soviet Union lost between 27 and 40 mln people during WWII... It's difficult to comprehend the scale of this tragedy... I think it's tremendously damaging for the nation's gene pool as the best, most committed and brave people die first.
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I agree, but I don't think it's possible to tell what war is to a man who never saw it. They will theoretically agree that this is terrible but this will come from their brains, not their hearts.
See, I sort of disagree. Perhaps it's not possible for us to understand the full horror of it but it is possible to feel at least part of. Last year I was reading and watching a lot about WWII and I personally felt it in my heart. I actually felt as if I've been there. Some books (documentary type) at least had this effect on me, like "У войны не женское лицо" Светланы Алексиевич ("War's Unwomanly Face" by Svetlana Alexievich). Another book "За что сражались советские люди" Дюкова ("What Soviet people Fought For" by Dukov) was a horrible experience. There is so much death and cruelty in it, I actually became really depressed for a few days and felt like I've lost all my faith in humanity.
Anyways, some of the best war time songs, imho, are
Враги сожгли родную хату
В путь
До свиданья, города и хаты
В землянке
Нам нужна одна победа
На поле танки грохотали
День победы
Офицеры
Священная война
В лесу прифронтовом
Тёмная ночь
They can all be downloaded at sovmusic.ru and there are lyrics as well.
"Smugliyanka" -- coloured version, better quality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA8G1rWrGt8
The "World At War" series, the episode about the Soviet Union in WWII called "Red Star": (highly recommended BBC series; this episode, about 40--50 min long (don't remember exactly) is really touching in how it portrays our part of the war, and this was made at the height of the Cold War! It also includes bits of the best war songs.)
Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBfloytOAtQ
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lOKtV15ias
Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUF2w...eature=related
Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIwzr...eature=related
Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Mu6...eature=related
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Originally Posted by Johanna
2) Sounds like this holiday does not stir up much sense of triumph or patriotism with anyone here at least!
It does.. in me. Though I am as pacifist and anti-war as it is possible to be... I hate politicians who start wars and I'm vehemently against obligatory army service and drafting people to fight who don't want to. The right to life is the inalienable right of a human being so sacrificing it in god-knows-what cause is just wrong. But I was rather saddened by the display of cynicism at the beginning of this thread. I mean, I actually started to write something rather angry yesterday but thought why bother... And that I'd better cool down a bit.
OK, that's enough ranting from me. I think I'd better go and continue with my work.
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Originally Posted by starrysky
Some people complain about the new tradition of wearing "Георгивеские ленточки" and I don't understand those complaints either. It's a sign of memory and gratitude. Would it better if it was all forgotten? Then people would surely complain about how ungrateful everyone is.
About these bands... you mean like this:
http://www.za-lentu.ru/images/lenta5.jpg
Or like this:
http://www.za-lentu.ru/images/lenta9.jpg
Check this site for more:
http://www.za-lentu.ru/
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It's a sign of memory and gratitude.
На перекрестке между тачками мельтешат неестественно возбужденные студенты-активисты с ленточками.
- А почему у вас нет ленточки, щас мы вам ее на зеркало...
- Отойди от машины.
- Вы что?!! Это же память!! О великой победе!!
- Кто был командующим 2-м Белорусским фронтом в 1945-м году?
- Ээээ... мммм... А! ЖУКОВ!!!!
- Рокоссовский. На х#й себе ленточку намотай на память...
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Originally Posted by Ramil
About these bands... you mean like this:
Well, those photos (they don't show in your post but I looked 'em up at the site) are definitely disgusting (especially on the vodka bottles) but it doesn't mean that the idea behind it is bad. Most people treat it with respect, I hope... Why assume at once that if someone attached it to the car antennae, they do it purely out of "herd feeling"? Maybe they do actually understand and care?...
As far as I know, veterans in Great Britain wear poppies on Remembrance Day. I suppose it's a better and much less controversial choice than our bands. The idea is that it creates a feeling of unity.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nce_march.jpeg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._we_forget.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day
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Originally Posted by Ramil
I always thought that this dumb thread to decorate cars, morons, etc. with St. George bands is something like blasphemy. Today I've seen it on a banner wich advertise discounts in chain supermarket. Disgusting :bad:. I have a very strong desire to punch a moron who was struck with this brilliant idea to put it there in the face. :mad:
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I'm from Belarus, I'm russian but I'm not Russian. In English it looks silly. :) In Russian we have different words for Russian as citizens of Russian Federation (Россияне) and russian as culture (русские). (Not all Russian are russian, and not all russian are Russian) :)
So, about 9 May. As for me, 9 May is as independence day in US. It is the greatest holiday. Some people think that it is our national religion to celebrate victory day. This holiday means that we, sons and grandsons of veterans will protect our country from any threats at all costs as they did. That's why military parade is held.
P.S. Sorry for my bad English and mistakes.
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Originally Posted by Ramil
About these bands... you mean like this:
Well, those photos (they don't show in your post but I looked 'em up at the site) are definitely disgusting (especially on the vodka bottles) but it doesn't mean that the idea behind it is bad.
They could have chosen any other symbol but this.
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Георгиевская лента — это атрибут множества боевых наград Российской Империи, Советского Союза и современной России, характеризующийся как особый знак отличия.
I think that wearing these bands diminishes the deeds of those who wears them by right.
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Концовка фильма "Был месяц май", 1970
From the film IT WAS IN MAY
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vypjxfZWS0
Download soundtrack in mp3:
http://glavtekstil.511.com1.ru/may/melody.mp3
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Минута молчания. Одна из первых.
Первая была в 1965 году - тогда в кадре была горящая свеча.
Здесь в кадре - огонь на могиле неизвестного солдата (он был зажжен 8 мая 1967 года).
http://video.mail.ru/list/32151/237/2628.html
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It was very cool to see photos of peoples' relatives and the links to the songs. Funnily I recognise both melodies but really I can't think where I would have heard them. Maybe on TV a very long time ago. By the way, is super-grand song "Slavianka" about WW2, or something else? Is it more a Soviet era song than contemporary?
Coming from a country that didn't fight and was hardly affected by the war I really feel humble towards all those people who participated or risked their lives in one way or another. But like bitpicker alluded to; Living in a Nazi Europe would have been terrible - thank goodness they were stopped!
If anything from the Russian celebration this year was particularly good, then please post a link to a video so that everyone can see! It is not celebrated at all here in the UK -- like starrysky said, the celebrations are of a different nature, and are held in the autumn.
http://www.teachpeace.com/children%2...world%20sm.JPG
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By the way, is super-grand song "Slavianka" about WW2, or something else? Is it more a Soviet era song than contemporary?
Originaly in was a military march written in 1912 by Vasiliy Agapkin who was an officer in Tsar's army. He called it "Farewell of Slavic woman". There are several variants of lyrics for this march written later by different authors.
To the celebrations: it was very unusial to see this picture at the Red Square today :) :
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4120/15615655.jpg
And now I'm going to go and watch fireworks at my town's central square. I'm going to make some photos and may be I shall post some of them here.
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Re: День победы - 9 May Peace-in-Europe / Victory Day
Haha, yes I can imagine that was a surprise! The British participation has been unanimously positively covered in the British press... and most British people love a good military parade so inviting them was really a PR success in the Western countries, I guess! The British veterans have been very positive about their experiences in Russia.
The main Swedish paper had the Russian celebration prominently featured as well -- with 100% positive coverage. But they point out that the city of Moscow needs a special budget for dealing with all the damages caused by driving tanks through the city...
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Re: День победы - 9 May Peace-in-Europe / Victory Day
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Originally Posted by Johanna
But they point out that the city of Moscow needs a special budget for dealing with all the damages caused by driving tanks through the city...
As far as I heard, they covered tanks' trucks with rubber to keep roads undamaged.
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Re: День победы - 9 May Peace-in-Europe / Victory Day
This is a war time song my heart breaks and I can’t hold back the tear when I hear it.
Here sung by Hvorostovsky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goqj9...eature=related and this time by Utesov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVl0JgcimoA
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Re: День победы - 9 May Peace-in-Europe / Victory Day
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Re: День победы - 9 May Peace-in-Europe / Victory Day
Даже в Москве недавно нашли 900 снарядов в земле рядом с домами.
А в лесу до сих пор ходить опасно:
http://ekabu.ru/dvig/print:page,1,15570 ... -foto.html
Так что для меня это не праздник,
а скорее день посещения кладбища,
которое приходит само к тебе домой.
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Re: День победы - 9 May Peace-in-Europe / Victory Day
Yeah, I remember 2 years ago they've found a German 200 kg aerial bomb 15 meters! from my dacha house on my neighbor's land. I's been over 60 years and still this war can kill you. I was very shocked by this, as I remember. Fortunately, this bomb was safely removed and disposed of. My settlement had never seen so many police cars, firefighting teams, guys from FSB, etc.
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Re: День победы - 9 May Peace-in-Europe / Victory Day
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Wow that's a powerful song!!
Gosh, they found a bomb near your dacha!!! Spooky! I wonder if they can go off after this long?
Sorry I don't know this.. . Or I've forgotten... But I guess that means Moscow was air-bombed during the war, right? For some reason all I know about the war in the ex USSR is about Stalingrad, the siege of Leningrad, occupation of Ukraine and the Baltic states. Also that some factories were moved to the Urals. But I don't know what happened with Moscow. It was never occupied though, right? Can't bring myself to read anything about the war, it's just such a sad topic... So I only know what I remember from school.
I know they find mines floating around in the sea from time to time, and in England an unexploded bomb was found last year at a construction site.
