Thread: Гендерные меньшинства

Originally Posted by hddscan

The problem with your logic starts when you try to think about other sexual minorities, like pedophiles, for example. In many countries pedophiles are outlaws and yet, according to your logic, they are norm and not more than a stereotype. How would you defend your position now? ...

Немецкие ученые доказали, что педофилия это болезнь, Mixnews.lv

Originally Posted by Lampada

Немецкие ученые доказали, что педофилия это болезнь, Mixnews.lv

В международной классификации болезней Всемирной Организации Здравоохранения до её 9 редакции включительно гомосексуальность классифицировалась как заболевание (302.0), относившееся к группе психосексуальных расстройств (psychosexual disorders) (302) (см. список List of ICD-9 codes 290—319: mental disorders)

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Гомосексуальность

But now we know that those studies were wrong.
The link you posted does not prove your point of view, because you, yourself said that sexual minorities are norm and now you actually disapproving your words with that link

Originally Posted by hddscan

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Гомосексуальность

But now we know that those studies were wrong.
The link you posted does not prove your point of view, because you, yourself said that sexual minorities are norm and now you actually disapproving your words with that link

Педофилия нигде и никак не включается в список сексуальных/гендерных меньшинств. Это болезнь/психическое расстройство и реальная трагедия. Не будем здесь её обсуждать.

Originally Posted by Lampada

Педофилия нигде и никак не включается в список сексуальных/гендерных меньшинств. Это болезнь/психическое расстройство и реальная трагедия. Не будем здесь её обсуждать.

ok, let's not to use the actual word pedophilia but let's check the definition of sexual minorities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_minority

Others referred to as "sexual minorities" include fetishists and practitioners in of BDSM.[7] The term may also include asexuals[8][9] and people who may be strictly heterosexual and whose choice of actual sex acts may be vanilla, but whose choice of partner or partners is atypical, such as swingers (although this is debated),[10] polyamorists[11] or people in other nonmonogamous relationships, people who strongly prefer sex partners of a disparate age[12] or people who engage in mixed race relationships.

I highlighted a controversial phrase for you.
Now a question for you, if there are people who would only prefer sex with people who are 30-40 years younger then them should we call it a norm, a divination from norm or physiological disorder. That's a question number one.
A second question. There are nonmonogamous relationships in the world, in some countries it's legal in some it is not, the question is, shouldn't those people have the same social rights as anybody else?
And finally third question. There are people who practice polyamory (i.e. free love) should their sexual views be widely spread and accepted in society and should those people have the same social rights as anybody else?

I'm eager to hear your answers.

Originally Posted by hddscan

ok, let's not to use the actual word pedophilia but let's check the definition of sexual minorities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_minority

I highlighted a controversial phrase for you.
Now a question for you, if there are people who would only prefer sex with people who are 30-40 years younger then them should we call it a norm, a divination from norm or physiological disorder. That's a question number one.
A second question. There are nonmonogamous relationships in the world, in some countries it's legal in some it is not, the question is, shouldn't those people have the same social rights as anybody else?
And finally third question. There are people who practice polyamory (i.e. free love) should their sexual views be widely spread and accepted in society and should those people have the same social rights as anybody else?

I'm eager to hear your answers.

It's all off-topic.

Originally Posted by Lampada

It's all off-topic.

On the contrary it's very "on-topic", you brought sexual minorities term here and I think it is very important to understand what it is.
When anybody starts talking about sexual minorities the first thing that comes to mind is gay people, it's a hot topic in modern societies. However if anybody acknowledges that gay people are sexual minority and they should have same social right as heterosexuals(I believe you , Lampada, is one of so called "pro-gay" people) it begs a question, what about other sexual minorities? Should they have the same social rights as gays? And if no then why not? If no then wouldn't it mean that gays are somewhat superior than other sexual minorities? Wouldn't it be hypocrisy? And if gays are "socially superior" wouldn't it endanger other sexual minorities and maybe eventually the majority too?

Originally Posted by hddscan

On the contrary it's very "on-topic", you brought sexual minorities term here and I think it is very important to understand what it is.
When anybody starts talking about sexual minorities the first thing that comes to mind is gay people, it's a hot topic in modern societies. However if anybody acknowledges that gay people are sexual minority and they should have same social right as heterosexuals(I believe you , Lampada, is one of so called "pro-gay" people) it begs a question, what about other sexual minorities? Should they have the same social rights as gays? And if no then why not? If no then wouldn't it mean that gays are somewhat superior than other sexual minorities? Wouldn't it be hypocrisy? And if gays are "socially superior" wouldn't it endanger other sexual minorities and maybe eventually the majority too?

All of your questions are easily resolved if we assume that,

a) Family in legal terms is represented by a couple of two, of the age of consent or higher.
b) The sexual orientation of anyone (either gay or straight) is what they're born with, with no possibility to ever change it.

A lot of social and biological studies conclude a) to be the optimal pick, and prove b) correct.