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Кто посмотрел этот фильм?
http://nashekino.ctb.ru/base/films/p...vera_1st_b.jpg
I though it was really good, I enjoyed it alot.
I also have a 3 questions: Do they have film classifications in Russia, as in age limits on certain films?
And what is the Crimea really like? It looks so beautiful in the film.
And in which year did Khrushchev transfer the Crimea from the RSFSR to the Ukrainskaya SSR?
I enjoy Игорь Петренко.
Я смотрела его летом, он мне тоже очень понравился.
На первые два вопроса я не могу ответить, но я знаю, что Хрущев передал Крым Украине в 1954 году.
No, they don't have classification as far as I know.
Crimea is even more beautiful and picturesque .
Well, about the movie itself - I found it rather kitschy and at least disjointed.
The harsh ending is not in line (IMO) with the rest of the film. The NKVD officers weren't exactly sort of Bronx gangsta dudes, especially during the Khrushchev era named "ottepel" . The physical disability of hers was to add some 'outcastiness' and compassion, where just alcoholism would suffice. All in all the idea behind the movie seems to be to make another " Burnt By The Sun" Directed by Nikita Mikhalkov and it failed.
PS my first post here - so hello all !
You say this: Кто видел этот фильм?
Well, I wouldn't be so harsh, Евгения , and say - both are legitimate.
Errm, I didn't really like it either, but the Crimea certainly does look rather beautiful in that film. Personally I prefer those zany '70s movies that are premised on two people looking extraordinarily similar to each other. :lol:
Evg. is right though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleph
I was confused. Did Viktor really love Vera? I mean, he lied to her about rousing Lida, and told that KGB guy that he didn't love her, but I thought he just was lying to him maybe.
And he saved the baby. But wasn't that just because his sister died. I mean he even have the baby the same name as his sister. I liked the actress who played Vera. Something Babenko I think. What else has she been in?
Тут обсуждали, почитай, если хочешь.
http://www.ourprivate.net/forum/viewtop ... 76&start=0
I was not trying to be harsh. Sorry TATY.
It's OK, you were correct :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Евгения Белякова
:)
Saw it on TV in December, also it was shown at Dom Keno's film festival in Dec. I liked it but the end was fantasy.
TATY and JB, did you guys watch it with subtitles?
Yes. I saw it in my film class at univerisity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pravit
where can you rent or buy films like this in America? I know blockbuster doesn't have it :lol: . A different rental movie place where I live has a foreign film section, but I couldn't find any russian films there either. Any suggestions.....are there any good websites to buy from?
I've been ordering several Russian films through Netflix over the net for the past month. :) Their international section isn't bad, and the Russian category is decent enough. A huge majority of the Russian movies I've seen so far renting through Netflix are not available at any video store where I live. :( But I haven't looked for Водитель для Веры quite yet . . .
Lucky you. I had to watch it twice to catch everything, although I understood the general story the first time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by TATY
If your conscience doesn't mind a little downloading you can find Водитель для Веры here
Owwwch! That special file-sharing software which we are not allowed to mention in this forum! I was trying to download "Igla", but only one guy has it, and it was taking forever. I got maybe 1MB done over the course of several days.
Well, this particular file I downloaded (only for educational purposes of course and watched only first 30 secs allowed for promotion and then immediatedly wiped from HD) in about 3 days.
The second thought - MIPAA and other witchhunting societies seem not to be aware of Russian film industry at all, so, if there's no one to execute the law - sharing Russian films is perfectly legal, or am I wrong?
I don't have any problem with it. I was just being sarcastic because at first I typed "e-(certain animal)" and the forum filtered it out like a swear word.
(mule) sucks. It takes sooooooooo long to connect.
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Do you know a better way? News/BitTorrent aren't the best options for rare files. And time to connect <to available sources> for "непарнокопытного" depends on "Max new connections /5 sec" advanced setting. If you would set it to high enough value, it'll be quite fast ( if your machine can handle the load ).
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yes i do, actually. I know two ways.
Well, thanks for the advice Denis, but I am afriad my computer is too slow for that kind of downloading....maybe I will try it whenever I upgrade my computer. I think I will just stick to ordering for now.
its not actually your computer that is too slow, it would be your connection (And really there is noconnection too slow, if you have the patience). But since u already said u have cable. Then what's the holdup?
E-animal of burden downloads are always around dialup speed anyway, so it's really just a question of how long you can keep your connection on.
Pravit, I saw the movie on TV in Moscow, no subtitles.
Cool! :thumbs:
How long has it taken any of you guys before you were able to follow the Russian films without subtitles? Or if you haven't grown out of it yet, does it frustrate you when you don't follow it? And do you ever watch Russian films with Russian (as opposed to English) subtitles? That's the way I'm experimenting with my listening practice for my more developed languages at the moment. Of course, DVD's would be required for that function. Do you don't see any short-comings in doing it this way, do you? Eventually of course, I hope to grow out of subtitles altogether. But at the moment, it frusrates me to try and follow films when they're out of my league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pravit
У меня образовалась вредная привычка смотреть телевизор с closed captioning. Наверное, когда язык неродной, что-то когда-никогда и пропустишь, даже если и знаешь язык неплохо. :(
The coast of Crimea is indeed beautiful! :o If you want to look at a lot of pictures, look here. http://sevastopol.russian-women.net/
There are some inland areas that are nice-looking too, Haksaw, at least from what I've seen.
About your question Brett, I still need to watch films twice before I catch most(not all) of what people are saying. The first time, I get the general idea of the story and what they're talking about. It takes another time or two before I know exactly what they're saying. Of course it frustrates me, but there's nothing much you can do except get used to the language.
I second it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pravit
If I watch films with subtitles I end up reading the English and not listening to the Russian and thus miss a lot of the meaning/feeling/jokes. If I don't understand something I look it up in my dictionary during the commercials or just ask my husband if he's watching the movie with me. The only time I see Russian subtitles is if a movie has "foreigners" in it and they are speaking another language. But usually there is a voice-over translation and rarely subtitles.
An awful lot of Russian DVDs do indeed have Russian subtitles. I have several like that. Especially the older classics. It's irritating, but a lot of modern releases don't seem to bother with them. At least that's how I remember it from last year.
Dubbing is incredibly irritating. An abomination. There are a few countries in the world where cinemas favour subtitles for foreign films, but unfortunately Russia is not one of them.
And brett, yes, of course use Russian subtitles if you have them. There's basically no educational value in watching with English subtitles.
A lot of the (American) movies at the keno theater have such good dubbing that it seems like they were made in Russian language. Even the voices sound like the original voices of the English speaking actors. But the voice-over dubbing on TV is so annoying that sometimes I just change the channel. I do like watching some of the American shows like "Pimp My Ride" and "The Osborns" though because you can hear the English underneath and the voice-over translation is a hoot!