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    Ten Things Americans Don't Know About America

    Вот потому, что вы говорите то, что не думаете, и думаете то, что не думаете, вот в клетках и сидите. И вообще, весь этот горький катаклизм, который я здесь наблюдаю, и Владимир Николаевич тоже…

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    Спасибо!

    Но что значит "We’re entitled"?
    "Невозможно передать смысл иностранной фразы, не разрушив при этом её первоначальную структуру."

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmixiv View Post
    Спасибо!

    Но что значит "We’re entitled"?

    Это значит, что ты думаешь что все тебе должны, как будто ты важнее чем другие. Понятно?
    Вот потому, что вы говорите то, что не думаете, и думаете то, что не думаете, вот в клетках и сидите. И вообще, весь этот горький катаклизм, который я здесь наблюдаю, и Владимир Николаевич тоже…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
    Это значит, что ты думаешь что все тебе должен, как если ты важнее чем другие. Понятно?
    Ага...Из словаря я этого не мог понять. Тогда "пуп земли", наверное, подойдёт. Про одного конкретного человека, который много о себе мнит, мы говорим: "он думает, что он - пуп земли".
    Также можно назвать его и д'Артаньяном из ставшего популярным "неприличного" анекдота
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    У нас тут, кстати, много россиян-д'Артаньянов на форуме.

    Маленько надо исправить:
    все тебе должны, как будто ты важнее чем другие (или: важнее других/остальных)
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    "Невозможно передать смысл иностранной фразы, не разрушив при этом её первоначальную структуру."

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    "1. FEW PEOPLE ARE IMPRESSED BY US"

    By the way, Deborah, that American guy we met in Cyprus didn't know what a water pipe (hookah) is. He's about 50 years old American man (game designer, so his profession implies some intellectual level), but this adult guy didn't know an elementary thing (even if you don't know what it exactly is, you could see it on the pictures etc).

    So, me and my friends were very "impressed by US", honestly. If you want to get a cultural shock, meet an American.
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    У нас тут, кстати, много россиян-д'Артаньянов на форуме.
    Тысяча чертей, да что вы говорите, сударь!

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    I'd like translate this article for my blog. Not if I would really agree with the author, just for the practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrBaldhead View Post
    Тысяча чертей, да что вы говорите, сударь!

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    I'd like translate this article for my blog. Not if I would really agree with the author, just for the practice.
    Exactly. I'm not completely agree with the author too, he just indulged and descant everything. If you see every country in this aspect, nowhere is perfect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul G. View Post
    "1. FEW PEOPLE ARE IMPRESSED BY US"

    By the way, Deborah, that American guy we met in Cyprus didn't know what a water pipe (hookah) is. He's about 50 years old American man (game designer, so his profession implies some intellectual level), but this adult guy didn't know an elementary thing (even if you don't know what it exactly is, you could see it on the pictures etc).

    So, me and my friends were very "impressed by US", honestly. If you want to get a cultural shock, meet an American.
    Paul i think you should not judge a "whole" nation by one particular person. It just sounds a bit prude.
    Not to mention that many 'other' things could have happened for this misunderstanding. (Maybe you didn't understand eachother fully because of different accents, maybe he wanted to Joke and Etc...)
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    That guy is apparently not a patriot, is he Obama's voter? =))

    I just wonder when he says it's not true "we are the world's leader", does he even realize that the English language is out there as international language #1 NOT because of the U.K.? As simple as that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul G. View Post
    "1. FEW PEOPLE ARE IMPRESSED BY US"

    By the way, Deborah, that American guy we met in Cyprus didn't know what a water pipe (hookah) is. He's about 50 years old American man (game designer, so his profession implies some intellectual level), but this adult guy didn't know an elementary thing (even if you don't know what it exactly is, you could see it on the pictures etc).

    So, me and my friends were very "impressed by US", honestly. If you want to get a cultural shock, meet an American.
    Guess what Paul, the level of intellect, or IQ, means your ability to operate with the static knowledge you have, to process it effectively... It doesn't mean the amount of static knowledge you have; you know how a genius is different to a moron? They may just know the same sets of facts, but a moron won't be able to use them for anything while the genius will use them to generate some brilliant ideas or make some genius discoveries.

    As for that guy, him not knowing what that thing is does not demean his intellectual abilities in any way, and besides, given his profession, one would doubt he needs that particular knowledge in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmixiv View Post
    Спасибо!

    Но что значит "We’re entitled"?
    Просто значит "Иметь права".
    Но верно есть увиливание или уклончивость. Политический язык как выше.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    That guy is apparently not a patriot, is he Obama's voter? =))

    I just wonder when he says it's not true "we are the world's leader", does he even realize that the English language is out there as international language #1 NOT because of the U.K.? As simple as that
    English is the international language because North America was a colony of the U.K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Полуношник View Post
    English is the international language because North America was a colony of the U.K.
    But it wasn't even close to the status it has now while America was an English colony; now, there are over 300 million native English speakers worldwide, and 1.8 billion people who can speak it; the number of people who can speak it is 5.5 times higher than the number of native speakers; no else language can compete with these numbers; now, do you think it was British guys who we should thank for that? =))

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    I disagree with you, Eric! I think that criticism is the highest form of patriotism! Do not mistake patriotism, for nationalism. To blindly salute our flag and blab about how we are "the greatest country in the world" is Nationalism. Not to mention, just stupid. America DOES have some problems and it is high time we start accepting that, because in order to make things better we must first acknowledge that we have problems in the first place!

    Just yesterday some idiot American made a "joke" to me about how "people are standing in line in Moscow to buy bread." When I corrected him and told him that actually Moscow has a higher standard of living than New York City, he got angry and called me a commie! These kinds of ignorant attitudes are really not helping our image.
    Вот потому, что вы говорите то, что не думаете, и думаете то, что не думаете, вот в клетках и сидите. И вообще, весь этот горький катаклизм, который я здесь наблюдаю, и Владимир Николаевич тоже…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
    Just yesterday some idiot American made a "joke" to me about how "people are standing in line in Moscow to buy bread." When I corrected him and told him that actually Moscow has a higher standard of living than New York City, he got angry and called me a commie! These kinds of ignorant attitudes are really not helping our image.
    Did you ask him to specify the time first? Coz it HAS happened there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
    I disagree with you, Eric! I think that criticism is the highest form of patriotism! Do not mistake patriotism, for nationalism. To blindly salute our flag and blab about how we are "the greatest country in the world" is Nationalism. Not to mention, just stupid. America DOES have some problems and it is high time we start accepting that, because in order to make things better we must first acknowledge that we have problems in the first place!.
    I would accept one mentioning some real problems and possible solutions for them, but that "you're nothing so shut up" attitude isn't what I'm really fond of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    Did you ask him to specify the time first? Coz it HAS happened there
    He was talking about NOW -_-

    And, sure it happened, but what western media also forgets to note is that people were given rationing coupons (талёны) - which I also received when I lived there...
    Вот потому, что вы говорите то, что не думаете, и думаете то, что не думаете, вот в клетках и сидите. И вообще, весь этот горький катаклизм, который я здесь наблюдаю, и Владимир Николаевич тоже…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    I would accept one mentioning some real problems and possible solutions for them, but that "you're nothing so shut up" attitude isn't what I'm really fond of.
    Funny, that wasn't what I got from the article at all! I saw a more-than-deserved smack-down of arrogant yet ignorant people who have deserved it for a long, long time!
    Вот потому, что вы говорите то, что не думаете, и думаете то, что не думаете, вот в клетках и сидите. И вообще, весь этот горький катаклизм, который я здесь наблюдаю, и Владимир Николаевич тоже…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
    He was talking about NOW -_-

    And, sure it happened, but what western media also forgets to note is that people were given rationing coupons (талёны) - which I also received when I lived there...
    But they only made things worse coz you had to have both money and those coupons to buy anything; you couldn't buy stuff just for bills; that was truly insane!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    no else language can compete with these numbers; now, do you think it was British guys who we should thank for that? =))
    Eric, do you know what the UK is (were)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul G. View Post
    Eric, do you know what the UK is (were)?
    A state consisting of Britain (which in turn consists of England, Scotland and Wales) & part of Ireland (which is called "Northern Ireland); used to have colonies all over the world in the past, the largest of which were part of the modern territory of the U.S. and India; (I may seem a bit arrogant, but I'm not ignorant )

    So?...

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