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    Well my wife and I would LIKE to move BACK to Russia eventually. We want to get out of here before things get worse and we lose everything we've worked for here. But my family is in Russia and is most of hers. So i'm thinking that I should just wait to adopt a child untill the move is final and we are settled back in Moscow. Does that sound like a good idea? My wife does NOT like that idea because she wants a baby NOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavsia.rus View Post
    Well my wife and I would LIKE to move BACK to Russia eventually. We want to get out of here before things get worse and we lose everything we've worked for here.
    While some people I know want to pack and move to US 'before things get worse and they lose everything they've worked for here', some people want the opposite. Isn't it odd? What interesting times we were privileged to live in! No, my sarcasm here is only partial.
    Come on then, come here, to Moscow, and try to ride these times through in Russia.

    No, seriously, is it THAT bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    While some people I know want to pack and move to US 'before things get worse and they lose everything they've worked for here', some people want the opposite. Isn't it odd? What interesting times we were privileged to live in!
    The grass is always greener on the other side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    While some people I know want to pack and move to US 'before things get worse and they lose everything they've worked for here', some people want the opposite. Isn't it odd? What interesting times we were privileged to live in! No, my sarcasm here is only partial.
    Come on then, come here, to Moscow, and try to ride these times through in Russia.

    No, seriously, is it THAT bad?
    Actually I think that in a longer perspective things will get better in Russia and worse in the US.
    I think the US will become even more a country of brutal class divides. Lord knows what way the EU will go, probably down more than up...
    The worst things about Russia seems to me to be the state of housing, and corruption (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    Actually I think that in a longer perspective things will get better in Russia and worse in the US.
    I think the US will become even more a country of brutal class divides. Lord knows what way the EU will go, probably down more than up...
    The worst things about Russia seems to me to be the state of housing, and corruption (?)
    Leftists from around the world have been predicting soon crash of the US economy for a century already. The US just look at their efforts with a condescending smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    Leftists from around the world have been predicting soon crash of the US economy for a century already. The US just look at their efforts with a condescending smile.
    And how do you know that? You are not American!

    I don't KNOW, but I would guess that most sensible Americans are a bit concerned about the state of their country at the moment. They are up to their heads in wars, class divides growing, immigration issues, foreign debt, housing crisis and a continuously weakening dollar.
    If they maintain a "condescending smile" despite all that, then they would be rather stupid and deserve what's coming. I don't think most normal Americans are that arrogant. A sensible person would try to understand where things went wrong and start correcting them. If the US doesn't do that, they it deserves to be knocked off the top spot by China (which I definitely don't like any better than the USA.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    And how do you know that? You are not American!

    I don't KNOW, but I would guess that most sensible Americans are a bit concerned about the state of their country at the moment. They are up to their heads in wars, class divides growing, immigration issues, foreign debt, housing crisis and a continuously weakening dollar.
    If they maintain a "condescending smile" despite all that, then they would be rather stupid and deserve what's coming. I don't think most normal Americans are that arrogant. A sensible person would try to understand where things went wrong and start correcting them. If the US doesn't do that, they it deserves to be knocked off the top spot by China (which I definitely don't like any better than the USA.)
    Hanna, for what it's worth, I agree with you.

    I'm going to generalize here, and of course all generalizations are inherently flawed. But that being said, I see two types of Americans recently: 1st, those who are thoroughly convinced in America's destiny to "come out on top" of any situation [(which is I think a concoction of 1 part post-depression-era "optimism-or-death", and 1 part "purposely-poorly-explained-in-school-concept-of<<manifest-destiny>>")], and 2nd, those who are suspicious that it will take a lot more effort than we're currently applying to make the situation better.. I'd like to say I'm of the second type - the foreign debt thing is particularly poignant this month... it's hard to avoid all of these things in the name of maintaining a chaste sense of patriotism. =)

    That said - I know nothing about the topic of adoption, at hand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    And how do you know that? You are not American!

    I don't KNOW, but I would guess that most sensible Americans are a bit concerned about the state of their country at the moment. They are up to their heads in wars, class divides growing, immigration issues, foreign debt, housing crisis and a continuously weakening dollar.
    If they maintain a "condescending smile" despite all that, then they would be rather stupid and deserve what's coming. I don't think most normal Americans are that arrogant. A sensible person would try to understand where things went wrong and start correcting them. If the US doesn't do that, they it deserves to be knocked off the top spot by China (which I definitely don't like any better than the USA.)
    How do you know I'm not American? What do you ever know about me?

    Do you really think dollar is out of control in its weakening? =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    How do you know I'm not American? What do you ever know about me?
    Come on, everyone here knows already that you are definitely NOT an American. Not even a native English speaker. You make those lapses now and then a native would not make. Personally, I think you're a native Russian troll I even suspect I knew you before by a different nick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    While some people I know want to pack and move to US 'before things get worse and they lose everything they've worked for here', some people want the opposite. Isn't it odd? What interesting times we were privileged to live in! No, my sarcasm here is only partial.
    Come on then, come here, to Moscow, and try to ride these times through in Russia.

    No, seriously, is it THAT bad?
    Well, I'm not sure I'm the best thinker in this group (LOL, rather sure I'm *not* ). But I certainly would move from US to Russia. I've been looking into a way to move to Russia for a little while now. If a viable pathway comes into my reach, I'm taking it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidkboom View Post
    Well, I'm not sure I'm the best thinker in this group (LOL, rather sure I'm *not* ). But I certainly would move from US to Russia. I've been looking into a way to move to Russia for a little while now. If a viable pathway comes into my reach, I'm taking it.
    You're ruining my perception of the reality right now, you know that?

    Well, I might be a bit one-sided here in my vision of the current world's state, but I learn a lot from the history. Every great power develops in a 'life-cycle'. It raises, it becomes powerful and then it collapses. I've never learned things to be otherwise throughout the whole history of mankind. And it's not some foreign or competitive power that usually brings down empires. It's their own population. When someone starts thinking that nothing bad can happen he's in trouble. I think that the modern USA has been living in this 'state of mind' for quite a long time already. No, I wish you all the luck in the world, but I couldn't think of anything that can help US to continue its way of living. Changes are imminent, it's just a matter of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    You're ruining my perception of the reality right now, you know that?

    Well, I might be a bit one-sided here in my vision of the current world's state, but I learn a lot from the history. Every great power develops in a 'life-cycle'. It raises, it becomes powerful and then it collapses. I've never learned things to be otherwise throughout the whole history of mankind. And it's not some foreign or competitive power that usually brings down empires. It's their own population. When someone starts thinking that nothing bad can happen he's in trouble. I think that the modern USA has been living in this 'state of mind' for quite a long time already. No, I wish you all the luck in the world, but I couldn't think of anything that can help US to continue its way of living. Changes are imminent, it's just a matter of time.
    Speaking as a programmer, you don't think everything is always going to be ok, but you don't care about it too much as long as you know there are exception handlers in your code for different kinds of sh*t, and if something goes wrong they'll manage to handle the situation. So, the only thing you should care about is your exception handlers being up to date and able to handle the kinds of sh*t they're meant to.

    Honestly speaking, there are not many KINDS of sh*t that could happen to a country, and I think the US "exception handlers" are working well for now.

    I'm a bit sorry for this parallel, but I assumed you were gonna get me right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    I'm a bit sorry for this parallel, but I assumed you were gonna get me right.
    Speaking in programmer terms, US as an app has accumulated many memory leaks and now the heap is nearly full of interlocked objects. You'll soon need to terminate and debug it. Or even reboot the whole system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    Speaking in programmer terms, US as an app has accumulated many memory leaks and now the heap is nearly full of interlocked objects. You'll soon need to terminate and debug it. Or even reboot the whole system.
    I think, when the app attempts to allocate another portion of memory, and runs across lack of free memory, the exception handler for this kind of thing will just run another process, copy the image into its address space, copy some critical information from the address space of the process having trouble, and the whole thing will start again. If there are some problems with system resources in general, the handler can always terminate a few other processes to get the resources it needs. It does have all the required privileges to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    Speaking in programmer terms, US as an app has accumulated many memory leaks and now the heap is nearly full of interlocked objects. You'll soon need to terminate and debug it. Or even reboot the whole system.
    LOLOL i read this thread from work, was gonna go home and type.. pretty much what you said =))

    The ridiculous foreign debt is like a giant memory leak, and so far we've already dished out all RAM access and most of the virtual memory ... =\ Where do we get 2/3x our countries' worth to pay back to foreign debtors? <checks wallet>
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