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hello everyone! i'm new here. my weird friend says"Bonjour commrade!" yeah, i have weird friends. anyways, i really want to learn the language, andn i hope one of you guys could help me. also, i'm learning how to speak french so if any of you know that, i'd be very obliged with your help. anyways, i'm from the usa and am looking forward to emailing you guys/girls. talk to you later!
Sofia
hi sofia! Nice name
thanks!whta is your name?how are you doing?
Well for starters, heres the same thing in RussianQuote:
Originally Posted by Sofia
Спасибо! Как вас зовут? Как дела?
hi darobat, nice to meet you too. i'm from the us, and am 15 years old. what about you?what do you like to do, how old are you, where do you live,etc.?oh, by the way thanks for the translation there, every little bit helps, but how do you pronounce it?and how do you type the russian letters on the keyboard?
A better translation:
Спасибо! Как тебя зовут? Как дела?
(лучше "тебя", а не "вас" :wink: )
well, i guess i'll just have to take your word for it that it is a better translation. :lol: thanks! you better watch out Darobat, it seems you have a translation conpetetitor :wink: .
Well I've only been learning this myself for a few weeks now, so I'd expect so. Also, Евгения, wouldn't вас be better because we are techinacly still "strangers". Wouldn't you only use тебя if lets say you knew eachother for a while but some how magicaly forgot your friends name?
I really don't think either is better.
@Sofia
Спасибо! Как вас зовут? Как дела?
Spacibo! Kak vas zovut? Kak dela?
And check here for how to type in Russian.
The formal form of address is generally used only in real life(between adults who do not know each other). Young people, and people on the net in general use the informal form.
Как вас зовут? Как дела?
As someone said earlier, "Как дела" is not really used as a standard "greeting" like it is in English-speaking countries("Hello, how are you?" "Good, how are you?"). You only use it when you actually want to know how the person is doing.
Ah, ok Pravit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pravit
thanks you guys! your awesome! happy valentine's day! mwah!
Just curious, does anyone on this forum actually respond to "how are you" with "how are you"? Although I'm a native English speaker, I find it weird.
it is weird. i guess "how are you?" is going to replace "hi" soon :wink: . well, i'm doing great how about you darobat, how are you doing? :D
So have I been speaking backwards English all this time? Because I respond to that question with how I really am doing, if I know the person. Which is why I didn't find it so strange that Russians do the same.
Me too. It took me a long time to figure out that when an American asks you “How are you doing” that he, really does not want to know. Well, I just tell them the truth now to piss them off, “ well I slept terribly last night because the cat kept throwing up fur balls on me and now I have got this crook in my neck, also some guy from a collection agency keeps bugging me about a credit card I never even had. Did I tell you about my Mum?”Quote:
Originally Posted by Pravit
:D :D :D It sounds as though we need more DDTs out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDT
Я очень хорошо, но мей русский язык не жороший достаточно говорить тебя как в РоссиаQuote:
Originally Posted by Sofia
(Could some superb russian speaker please verify the correctness of that? Only looked up 1 word, достаточно.)
Well here's another DDT. I do the same thing. I hate it when people ask me in passing, "how are you?" b/c I don't have any time to actually give the correct response! When that happens, I usually just end up saying good, even if it is not true. B/c if you say bad, then you have to tell why, and you don't have time when just passing someone. Its definately one of the most stupid American gestures to ask someone how are you as they are walking away from you. Who came up with that???!!
There are 2 ways:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sofia
1) same way as people type French or any other -
they add Russian keyboard layout via Control Panel, then switch keyboard to "RU" and type -
same thing as adding French layout, switch to "FR" and type.
How to know where the letters are on a US keyboard while you are in "FR" or "RU" mode? Microsoft provides a page for that (moving your mouse to Shift button on their image gives upper-case layout):
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/refe ... oards.aspx
Also some people want to type in Russian a little bit easier - using so called phonetic (homophonic) layout where unlike the standard one from Microsoft, one can get Russian 'A' by pressing 'A' on US English keyboard, get Russian 'O' by pressing 'O', 'etc.
Something like this (modifiable to your likes, a user can re-position letters):
an image of a phonetic layout
All of the above is covered for all Windows flavors (95/98/ME; 2000; NT; XP) in the
"Typing Russian on any keyboard: standard and phonetic layout" section of the site RusWin.net
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2) If a person needs to type in Russian just occasionally or can not add Russian keyboard layout via Control Panel for some reasons (Internet-cafe, library, a university lab with Linux or Mac)
then it's still possible to type exactly in the same fashion as (1) above explains, i.e. using your physical keyboard and either a standard layout or a phonetic one - such service is provided on Web pages called something like Virtual Russian Keyboard and here is my newest addition to that family:
........... Kbd.RusWin.net
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Haha, a girl makes a post, then tons people flock to the post and reply, i find that funny.
Er... That's kinda what happens on a forum. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tate
Funny how she left and has not been back since you showed up Tate!!
Ooh i want in on this, since everyone's already replying to Sofia. hi Sofia! I'm Jack. I'm pretty much in your same situation, learning this very detached language. Well, detached for me. I'm the only one the fivehundred kids in my school who wants to learn Russian. i was feeling a bit lonely until i came here. I've been studying for just short a year. София, if i were you, I'd memorize case RIGHT from the beginning. I'm paying for it now because I can't for my own sake memorize cases. Also, invest in some coursebooks. Do NOT buy phrasebooks, they'll only teach you how to ask where to hang your coat. look for 'Living Language' books. I bought this package that has a dictionary, a coursebook, and three cd's [VERY helpful when trying to pronounce things]. Look for a penpal, too. :)
this is the first forum i've ever posted in, so don't attack me if I accidentally strike a taboo. Спасибо!
jack
OOH and read "A Clockwork Orange" by Anthony Burgess. I always find it helpful because Burgess uses like russian for slang and once you read for a long time you get addicted and it's hard not to use these common russian words in your everyday english, not to mention russian.
Больше знать, легче продалжать!
G'day Jacko!.......I dunno Jacko...but I feel an attack comming on....besides, Sofia can't come to the phone right now... 'coz she digs me, man!! 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by eptep
Aaahh not again. This is becoming a popular nickname for me. jacko...tshhh.
Don't worry Jacko, Australians change the end of a lot of names. ie: Gary = Gaz Barry = Baz
Gary to Baz? How new! I think everyone over here has been referring to me like this because of all the late Michael Jackson over-exposure.
I'm not sure if I should be posting this in a 'general discussion' forum, maybe it should be in something else, but does anyone know about the education system in Russia? I mean like colleges and foreign exchange and such. I read that MGU charges 1600 a year [i think] for american students after all the testing and document fees are paid.
Classes are pretty cheap if you want to go directly through a russian university. The reason that many college students go through other organizations or institutions is to help transfer credits, and guarantee that credit will be received. Of course these programs cost more, more like 8000 a semester, but usually offer more in terms of support, organized trips if you want stuff like that, etc...But the transfer credit is the most important part. So if you have already graduated from college or are not worried about transferring any credits to your home instution, going directly through a Russian university is not a bad option. Save a lot of moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by eptep
Мне очень хорошо, а я не достаточно говорю по-русски, чтобы тебе говорить как Русский.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darobat
That's probably wrong too.
What you are saying in English is a bit long-winded,
I am very good, but my Russian isn't good enough to talk to you like in Russia.
My version is supossed to say: "I am very well, but I don't speak Russian well enough to talk to you like a Russian." Meh.
Лучше cказать только: "Я не говорю по-русси очень хорошо"
OK. "I am very good, but my Russian isn't good enough to talk to you like in Russia." like you pointed out is what I was trying get across.Quote:
Originally Posted by TATY